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I think Ravi's presence reduces the tension.
With poor HR policies prevailing in those big companies, others try to benchmark them. What to do! The HR department sometimes becomes a showoff with nothing in store. Hope the victim gets justice in court.
Regards,
Chandru
From India, Madras
With poor HR policies prevailing in those big companies, others try to benchmark them. What to do! The HR department sometimes becomes a showoff with nothing in store. Hope the victim gets justice in court.
Regards,
Chandru
From India, Madras
You havent included your immediate repoting manager anywhere in this episode, plz confirm whether manager was kept in loop regarding your leave plan??
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
dear friend,
you can file the case against that company in labour court as I suppose that you have all the relevant documents and proofs with you. But before that please make a detailed complaint letter alongwith proper supporting of proofs, addressing to CEO of the co. and CC to HR Head, your senior in the company and wait for 10 to 15 days for their reply. After that your case will be strong enough to fight against ill practices that are used to take place in most of the companies.
all the best for your new job and case too...
regards
From India, Chandigarh
you can file the case against that company in labour court as I suppose that you have all the relevant documents and proofs with you. But before that please make a detailed complaint letter alongwith proper supporting of proofs, addressing to CEO of the co. and CC to HR Head, your senior in the company and wait for 10 to 15 days for their reply. After that your case will be strong enough to fight against ill practices that are used to take place in most of the companies.
all the best for your new job and case too...
regards
From India, Chandigarh
You need to make a complaint to the local Labour Commissioners office u/s 2 ( k) of the Industrial Disputes Act. the employer cannot terminate the services on a presumption of abandonment but must conduct an enquiry in compliance with the principles of natural justice & only after the abandonment is proved through evidence can the employer inflict punishment . The employer CANNOT summarily dismiss an employee for any misconduct & in your case the facts as stated by you clearly show that the Company has acted in an illegal & arbitraty manner. After you file a complaint with the Labour Commissioner , a notice will be sent to the Company & they will be asked to justify the reasons for termination. If the Company does not appear or reply the case will be referred to the Labour Court as per the provisions of the Industrial Disputes Act.
In my opinion if you start the process of filing a compliant with theLabour Comm ,things will sort themselves out ,with alacrity.
Regards.
From India, Pune
In my opinion if you start the process of filing a compliant with theLabour Comm ,things will sort themselves out ,with alacrity.
Regards.
From India, Pune
Dear young man,
I have sympathy for you but I can't support your way of thinking.( i.e. to inform Govt).It will damage your entire carrear.
First look at you . How much you are at fault? The story is a true story or a fabricated story? In the present job scenario the employee should be more carefull. Instead of wasting your time in fighting , think differentaly. Try to convince them with the undertaking from your side or look for the change.
From India, Pune
I have sympathy for you but I can't support your way of thinking.( i.e. to inform Govt).It will damage your entire carrear.
First look at you . How much you are at fault? The story is a true story or a fabricated story? In the present job scenario the employee should be more carefull. Instead of wasting your time in fighting , think differentaly. Try to convince them with the undertaking from your side or look for the change.
From India, Pune
Hello Everyone,
First & foremost I think "Datsdwaytis" needs to put himself some sort of a name-tag......would be more appropriate:-). And especially when you want everyone's help?
And Datsdwaytis--is the HR lady Asha Naik, by any chance?
Now, I think most of responses seem to be missing one salient point here.
Someone mentioned that it could be a case of either "no strong leave policy" or being unaware of the existing policy. I think it's neither.
He is in the IT industry, where layoffs/pink-slips are the vogue at this point of time.
The way I look @ it is:he failed to notice the smoke-signals even when he was put on the bench/buffer. HIS NAME MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE PINK-SLIP LIST for sure. That's the usual first step any company does, before laying-off anyone. The only difference here seems to be the way it was done. But if one were to go by the way layoffs are being done in India [Wipro, Satyam, etc], I am NOT surprised.
Now coming to the NEXT step/course-of-action.
Like Zalak Dave mentioned, leave without any litigation for heaven's sake...don't screw up your career. Let me explain. Assuming you file a case-in labour court or anywhere else. The company can afford to put up a battery of lawyers to handle the case. Can you? And even if you can, for how long? And do you want to keep focusing on this part of your life/career for years or move on with your next job? That's YOUR choice...not anyone else's.
And the present company can screw up your references too when your next employer calls. Just think about it sir!!!!!!
That's NOT to say--forget this.
Just do what Abhishek mentioned...to put everything on record, from your end. But maybe e-mails should do [with appropriate flags of reciept confirmations]. And if your mails to them bounce [which is a distinct possibility, create & use new ones UNTIL YOUR PURPOSE IS HANDLED]. Don't worry if you don't hear from them......most likely they won't respond. [And also remember Abhishek's advice:don't blame anyone in any of your correspondence. And if you already have done that by now, pl. take the opportunity to apologise--no harm doing that--when you write now, saying you were very mentally disturbed, etc]. And when you have sufficient ammo in hand, just SIT ON IT.
Just begin to look for other openings meanwhile. And--HERE COMES THE IMPORTANT PART--AFTER you have established yourself in the new company[hope you get why], revive this matter with this company and if you don't get this resolved, DON'T TAKE IT TO THE COURT--TAKE IT TO THE MEDIA [there are so many channels today-you are sure to find someone to air this story]. I am sure you will get ALL YOUR DUES then. Only you need to wait until you are in safe territory-meaning a new job THAT DOESN'T JUDGE YOU ON THIS COMPANY'S FEEDBACK ANY LONGER.
Most people/companies-whose ethics are low- will NEVER EVER be afraid of courts [I remember a Quote here: People who think money can do everything are sure to do anything for money]. But they will loose sleep ONLY BY ADVERSE PUBLIC OPINION.
I hope you got what I wanted to convey. I will bet my last penny that this will work.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
First & foremost I think "Datsdwaytis" needs to put himself some sort of a name-tag......would be more appropriate:-). And especially when you want everyone's help?
And Datsdwaytis--is the HR lady Asha Naik, by any chance?
Now, I think most of responses seem to be missing one salient point here.
Someone mentioned that it could be a case of either "no strong leave policy" or being unaware of the existing policy. I think it's neither.
He is in the IT industry, where layoffs/pink-slips are the vogue at this point of time.
The way I look @ it is:he failed to notice the smoke-signals even when he was put on the bench/buffer. HIS NAME MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE PINK-SLIP LIST for sure. That's the usual first step any company does, before laying-off anyone. The only difference here seems to be the way it was done. But if one were to go by the way layoffs are being done in India [Wipro, Satyam, etc], I am NOT surprised.
Now coming to the NEXT step/course-of-action.
Like Zalak Dave mentioned, leave without any litigation for heaven's sake...don't screw up your career. Let me explain. Assuming you file a case-in labour court or anywhere else. The company can afford to put up a battery of lawyers to handle the case. Can you? And even if you can, for how long? And do you want to keep focusing on this part of your life/career for years or move on with your next job? That's YOUR choice...not anyone else's.
And the present company can screw up your references too when your next employer calls. Just think about it sir!!!!!!
That's NOT to say--forget this.
Just do what Abhishek mentioned...to put everything on record, from your end. But maybe e-mails should do [with appropriate flags of reciept confirmations]. And if your mails to them bounce [which is a distinct possibility, create & use new ones UNTIL YOUR PURPOSE IS HANDLED]. Don't worry if you don't hear from them......most likely they won't respond. [And also remember Abhishek's advice:don't blame anyone in any of your correspondence. And if you already have done that by now, pl. take the opportunity to apologise--no harm doing that--when you write now, saying you were very mentally disturbed, etc]. And when you have sufficient ammo in hand, just SIT ON IT.
Just begin to look for other openings meanwhile. And--HERE COMES THE IMPORTANT PART--AFTER you have established yourself in the new company[hope you get why], revive this matter with this company and if you don't get this resolved, DON'T TAKE IT TO THE COURT--TAKE IT TO THE MEDIA [there are so many channels today-you are sure to find someone to air this story]. I am sure you will get ALL YOUR DUES then. Only you need to wait until you are in safe territory-meaning a new job THAT DOESN'T JUDGE YOU ON THIS COMPANY'S FEEDBACK ANY LONGER.
Most people/companies-whose ethics are low- will NEVER EVER be afraid of courts [I remember a Quote here: People who think money can do everything are sure to do anything for money]. But they will loose sleep ONLY BY ADVERSE PUBLIC OPINION.
I hope you got what I wanted to convey. I will bet my last penny that this will work.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
I am a junior member fo the site i read your case & suggestions also.
I will sugest you that fist of all you try to get job & after that you go through your appointment letter or contract whatever. Then approach to a lawer & send a notice to your company.
I hope it will help you.
Thanks
From India, Ahmadabad
I will sugest you that fist of all you try to get job & after that you go through your appointment letter or contract whatever. Then approach to a lawer & send a notice to your company.
I hope it will help you.
Thanks
From India, Ahmadabad
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