I am serving as a HR Manager of a Real estate organization.
I have got two Bosses to report to.
One is the HR advisor of this company not on the rolls but being there as consultant/advisor out of the relationship he shared with the chairman of the company.
he is having huge experience in HR profession.
2nd one is joint managing director of the company ,my real boss even on my appointment letter,he is my reporting boss.
he Of course, has no experience in HR.
Now I happend to tell JMD about the inefficiencies of one department who's HOD is my first boss (consultant) friend.
after knowing that i have shared negetive information about that HOD's department with JMD,he scolded me saying it's not HR role.
he said HR is not a police department.
He believes that I should have spoken to that HOD about it but should not never had told it to top management directly.
Is he right or he is simple making this statement because of his personal bias towards that HOD who is his friend??????
I am really confused,whether I was wrong in sharing that info wid JMD or not??
Please guide.
From India, Delhi
I have got two Bosses to report to.
One is the HR advisor of this company not on the rolls but being there as consultant/advisor out of the relationship he shared with the chairman of the company.
he is having huge experience in HR profession.
2nd one is joint managing director of the company ,my real boss even on my appointment letter,he is my reporting boss.
he Of course, has no experience in HR.
Now I happend to tell JMD about the inefficiencies of one department who's HOD is my first boss (consultant) friend.
after knowing that i have shared negetive information about that HOD's department with JMD,he scolded me saying it's not HR role.
he said HR is not a police department.
He believes that I should have spoken to that HOD about it but should not never had told it to top management directly.
Is he right or he is simple making this statement because of his personal bias towards that HOD who is his friend??????
I am really confused,whether I was wrong in sharing that info wid JMD or not??
Please guide.
From India, Delhi
Hi Komal,
Firstly, you need to understand that it is not your Mistake if you shared it with your JMD, since he is your reporting boss on papers. So please remove the guilt factor.
Secondly, in some organisations, it is the responsibility of the HR to point out inefficiencies in a department, whereas in other organisations they have an audit team in place. It is a debated topic, and u need to seek clarification from your JMD.
Next, it is advisable that you speak to the HOD, since he is heading the Department. You know that he has Huge Experience in HR, don't you?
It happens at times, that we perceive things in the wrong manner. It happens with everyone. Happened with me too. But you should have spoken to the HOD. He would have explained things to you in case they were not the way you thought. Or maybe if you were correct, he would have appreciated you for bringing it to his notice and would have kept you in mind for greater responsibilities. Be a little political here, you know that JMD does not have any knowledge about HRM, so he definitely won't be able to recognize your strengths in HR and give you a position that you deserve. However the HOD does! Think well. If the JMD can scold you for being negative about HOD, so he can also think of promoting you in case the HOD recommends. You know the HOD has a lot of experience, so rather than talking about his department to someone else; might as well talk to him and enrich your knowledge! Lastly, never skip the hierarchy. People don't like it.
Besides always keep one thing in mind, learn to use every opportunity to your advantage. Make sure that you get noticed by the HOD. Keep one thing in mind, now and forever: "In a corporate, you never 'get' opportunities, you have to 'grab' them!!
Warm Regards,
Puneet Khurana
From India, Mumbai
9Firstly, you need to understand that it is not your Mistake if you shared it with your JMD, since he is your reporting boss on papers. So please remove the guilt factor.
Secondly, in some organisations, it is the responsibility of the HR to point out inefficiencies in a department, whereas in other organisations they have an audit team in place. It is a debated topic, and u need to seek clarification from your JMD.
Next, it is advisable that you speak to the HOD, since he is heading the Department. You know that he has Huge Experience in HR, don't you?
It happens at times, that we perceive things in the wrong manner. It happens with everyone. Happened with me too. But you should have spoken to the HOD. He would have explained things to you in case they were not the way you thought. Or maybe if you were correct, he would have appreciated you for bringing it to his notice and would have kept you in mind for greater responsibilities. Be a little political here, you know that JMD does not have any knowledge about HRM, so he definitely won't be able to recognize your strengths in HR and give you a position that you deserve. However the HOD does! Think well. If the JMD can scold you for being negative about HOD, so he can also think of promoting you in case the HOD recommends. You know the HOD has a lot of experience, so rather than talking about his department to someone else; might as well talk to him and enrich your knowledge! Lastly, never skip the hierarchy. People don't like it.
Besides always keep one thing in mind, learn to use every opportunity to your advantage. Make sure that you get noticed by the HOD. Keep one thing in mind, now and forever: "In a corporate, you never 'get' opportunities, you have to 'grab' them!!
Warm Regards,
Puneet Khurana
From India, Mumbai
There is a clear demarcation between ‘Team / Group Dynamics” and “Resource Optimization”.
If your concern is about inefficiencies or deficiencies in Team or Group Dynamics in one department and you reported that matter directly to JMD, in that case you were wrong. You should have first spoken to the Department Head and then shared the issue with JMD. Only Department Head knows the challenges that he is facing as well as the process of intra- and inter- department communication.
On the other hand, if you are concerned about Resource Optimization or Skills Optimization or Disciplinary Issues in the team, than it is good that you report such inefficiencies or deficiencies to the JMD.
So, you must be careful about what you report to the JMD. I am also afraid about your understanding of the relation these two people share. At the top, they all are friends…so be careful.
I hope this will help.
Thanks,
Sanjeev
From India, Mumbai
If your concern is about inefficiencies or deficiencies in Team or Group Dynamics in one department and you reported that matter directly to JMD, in that case you were wrong. You should have first spoken to the Department Head and then shared the issue with JMD. Only Department Head knows the challenges that he is facing as well as the process of intra- and inter- department communication.
On the other hand, if you are concerned about Resource Optimization or Skills Optimization or Disciplinary Issues in the team, than it is good that you report such inefficiencies or deficiencies to the JMD.
So, you must be careful about what you report to the JMD. I am also afraid about your understanding of the relation these two people share. At the top, they all are friends…so be careful.
I hope this will help.
Thanks,
Sanjeev
From India, Mumbai
Truly said Sanjeev. in such a relationship other person got stuck. one can easliy be confused as to what should be shared with the reporting manager or what should not...
another example of the same is mine where out of my two bosses, one is direct boss and another one is indirect (who acts as direct boss in absence of direct boss). at times it happens a lot where my indirect boss discuss lot of things with me rather I should say orders to do which are anyhow seems against the my direct boss. at times I really wonder what I am supposed to do....should i discuss the same with my direct boss or not...
so we cant predict or there is no rule as to what should be done or what not in such cases....funda is you have to be careful enough to deal with the situation in such a way that it comes out in beneficial way to the company and its people....and off course without the violation of the process...
and it usually happens in people driven companies not in process driven companies....
not to forget that WE ALL ARE HUMAN AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW ONE WILL REACT TO CERTAIN THINGS so these things will keep happening in human surroundings...
From India, New Delhi
another example of the same is mine where out of my two bosses, one is direct boss and another one is indirect (who acts as direct boss in absence of direct boss). at times it happens a lot where my indirect boss discuss lot of things with me rather I should say orders to do which are anyhow seems against the my direct boss. at times I really wonder what I am supposed to do....should i discuss the same with my direct boss or not...
so we cant predict or there is no rule as to what should be done or what not in such cases....funda is you have to be careful enough to deal with the situation in such a way that it comes out in beneficial way to the company and its people....and off course without the violation of the process...
and it usually happens in people driven companies not in process driven companies....
not to forget that WE ALL ARE HUMAN AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW ONE WILL REACT TO CERTAIN THINGS so these things will keep happening in human surroundings...
From India, New Delhi
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