Dear seniors tomorrow i have review meeting i need to talk some thing about my boss He has attitude problem I need to advise him indirectly for his mistakes Can any one pls help me in this regard
From India, Coimbatore
From India, Coimbatore
Hi Dinesh
A friendly advise, maintain decorum of language used at this forum, this forum is established to promote healthy discussion related to HR field. This posts are read by many senior members and freshers alike. such language portrays you in poor light.
With reference to your post, I dont know what has happened that you want to seek revenge by sarcastically praising your boss, but this tactics will not lead you anywhere.
Focus on your self development rather than pulling others down. Morever if your boss senses humiliation in your sarcastic talks, your life will be more hell. So dont mess with mother nature, electricity and boss !! :-D
From Kuwait, Salmiya
27A friendly advise, maintain decorum of language used at this forum, this forum is established to promote healthy discussion related to HR field. This posts are read by many senior members and freshers alike. such language portrays you in poor light.
With reference to your post, I dont know what has happened that you want to seek revenge by sarcastically praising your boss, but this tactics will not lead you anywhere.
Focus on your self development rather than pulling others down. Morever if your boss senses humiliation in your sarcastic talks, your life will be more hell. So dont mess with mother nature, electricity and boss !! :-D
From Kuwait, Salmiya
Dear Dinesh
I wont support your idea, but then if you are desperate please follow what is suggested below.
State as following :- "If god forbid, I have to say something really derogative about my Boss, under situation of duress, compulsion, undue influence, or coercion, then only derogative statement that I would and can may about my boss is that he is a great human being and a great boss"
Smart people in your organization will get the point loud and clear.
Hope you found a new job, otherwise happy hunting
Regards
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
I wont support your idea, but then if you are desperate please follow what is suggested below.
State as following :- "If god forbid, I have to say something really derogative about my Boss, under situation of duress, compulsion, undue influence, or coercion, then only derogative statement that I would and can may about my boss is that he is a great human being and a great boss"
Smart people in your organization will get the point loud and clear.
Hope you found a new job, otherwise happy hunting
Regards
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
Greetings,
Providing feedback to a senior is tricky, often irrespective of their nature. In your situation, lets for a change, imagine, how would you handle it, had the boss been affable and receptive?
You need to stay relevant, with data on what you share and succinct about your views on it. For example, a task which was allocated and delivered might have not been acknowledged. You may select such situations and share how his directions helped you deliver efficiently.
Be sure not to sound flattering, yet acknowledge the effort and support you have received from him so far.
Everyone can see each other's faults and weakness. Hence, focusing on them will highlight your incapabilities, to turn a situation.
Stay focused on your message, I am sure you will generate the right response.
Wish you all the best!
From India, Mumbai
Providing feedback to a senior is tricky, often irrespective of their nature. In your situation, lets for a change, imagine, how would you handle it, had the boss been affable and receptive?
You need to stay relevant, with data on what you share and succinct about your views on it. For example, a task which was allocated and delivered might have not been acknowledged. You may select such situations and share how his directions helped you deliver efficiently.
Be sure not to sound flattering, yet acknowledge the effort and support you have received from him so far.
Everyone can see each other's faults and weakness. Hence, focusing on them will highlight your incapabilities, to turn a situation.
Stay focused on your message, I am sure you will generate the right response.
Wish you all the best!
From India, Mumbai
Other seniors have given you advice; hence, as my wont, will raise questions for you to ponder over. I ask these questions as I am not clear about the situation.
In my work experience, when I was being reviewed I never had to talk about my boss. May be things have changed now. Or is your company using 360 degree appraisal where you have to say something about your boss?
What do mean by attitude problem? Or is it your perception that he has such a problem? Had you given an example of what you term as "attitude problem", it would have been useful for us to judge the situation.
Have a lovely day.
Simhan
Learning and Teaching Fellow (Retd.)
The University of Bolton, UK.
From United Kingdom
In my work experience, when I was being reviewed I never had to talk about my boss. May be things have changed now. Or is your company using 360 degree appraisal where you have to say something about your boss?
What do mean by attitude problem? Or is it your perception that he has such a problem? Had you given an example of what you term as "attitude problem", it would have been useful for us to judge the situation.
Have a lovely day.
Simhan
Learning and Teaching Fellow (Retd.)
The University of Bolton, UK.
From United Kingdom
Dear Mr. Dinesh
Always keep it in mind that think about and talk about what is wrong intead of who is wrong. Think and talk about how to rectify the wrong instead of whom to be blamed for the wrong.
As said by our seniors never think of using derogative speaches in public that too about your boss.
Here I would like to tell you onething that your boss has reached this position whatever he hold now, only after crossing your level. So keep it in mind, that he can understand your express meaning and even your implied meaning of your speach.
Our attitude only sets our altitude in our life. If any wrong thing took place please act on what is wrong and how to rectify it.
From India, Kumbakonam
Always keep it in mind that think about and talk about what is wrong intead of who is wrong. Think and talk about how to rectify the wrong instead of whom to be blamed for the wrong.
As said by our seniors never think of using derogative speaches in public that too about your boss.
Here I would like to tell you onething that your boss has reached this position whatever he hold now, only after crossing your level. So keep it in mind, that he can understand your express meaning and even your implied meaning of your speach.
Our attitude only sets our altitude in our life. If any wrong thing took place please act on what is wrong and how to rectify it.
From India, Kumbakonam
Hi Readers
@TS : Thanks for the appreciation and smile for my small humor !!
What dinesh has bought up is an interesting topic, how do we give our feedback to the bosses, specially when feedbacks are not so pleasant.
As Ms (Cite Contribution) mentioned that, is boss receptive or affable to entertain any not so pleasant feedbacks ?? it all depends on the personality of the boss, which we can explore during the tenure with them,
I wanted to ask, what are good ideas of conveying certain feedback to the bosses, to make life easier without affecting appraisals or offending boss.
From Kuwait, Salmiya
@TS : Thanks for the appreciation and smile for my small humor !!
What dinesh has bought up is an interesting topic, how do we give our feedback to the bosses, specially when feedbacks are not so pleasant.
As Ms (Cite Contribution) mentioned that, is boss receptive or affable to entertain any not so pleasant feedbacks ?? it all depends on the personality of the boss, which we can explore during the tenure with them,
I wanted to ask, what are good ideas of conveying certain feedback to the bosses, to make life easier without affecting appraisals or offending boss.
From Kuwait, Salmiya
My hearfelt thanks to All Senior Members .. As far the original question is cocerned as put forth more clearly by Ms. (Cite Contribution) and Mr.Hussain - I believe giving feedback to Supervisors / boss (upward feedback) requires a very tactful & delicate handling. I strongly feel that before even thinking "about providing feedback to the boss" one should make sure that they both share a mutual trust which will give them a conducive environment to give or receive feedback. Do you share good relationship / rapport with your boss?? If I were to think on those lines I would rather assess what kind of relationship do I share with my boss? I support Octavious and Simhan Sir's opinion. The attitude problem of your boss - could be just your perception. Most of the times we do not have a fair idea about their job demands , issues.
Would like to know what have you derived from all the wonderful suggestions provided by our senior members.
From India, Vadodara
Would like to know what have you derived from all the wonderful suggestions provided by our senior members.
From India, Vadodara
Dear All,
Quite interesting discussion is going on here. I agree with Mr. Hussain that, we must maintain decorum of language. What i understood from Mr. Dinesh Pillai's post is that, he was just communicating from his heart without evaluating his BOSS on the whole. Before we respond to Mr. Dinesh Pillai, We should find out "what made him to post such comments about his boss". We need to understand Mr. Dinesh Pillai but not his BOSS. I am sure this will help us to guide all those members seeking appropriate inputs from us.
Our replies should be based on Mr. Dinesh Pillai's inputs. Mr. Simhans approach, dealing with members for acquiring relevant information is quite practical and i truly appreciate it, because its really productive, realistic and practical approach. This approach had bridged the gap between seeker and adviser resulting productive discussions.
Mr. Hussain, its definitely not all about taking revenge but, it is the outcome of the RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BOSS AND EMPLOYEE. It is the responsibility of the BOSS to MAINTAIN HEALTHY AND POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP with his/her employees rather making them feel that "HE/SHE IS JUST A BOSS - DEMONSTRATING THE SIGN OF SUPERIORITY AND HIS/HER POWERS" This reflects organisation's WORK CULTURE as well.
BOSS cannot be compared with MOTHER NATURE in anyway.
I agree to Mr. Simhan, UPWARD FEEDBACK or 360 Degree Appraisal about BOSS will reveal much more than everything, if it is allowed anonymously. A GOOD SIGN OF A GOOD BOSS - will LISTEN and ACCEPTS CRITICS, in whatever shape they may be. This is the best way to understand his team.
Ms. (Cite Contribution) had pointed out the right attributes of attitude/behaviour - affable and receptive, associated with good leadership skills
One thing i had noted that, none of us likes to mess up with BOSS because he is BOSS, but why we don't take it in a positive sense to make him a better LEADER because BOSSESS falls under the MANAGEMENT category therefore
1) Management has to have mastery on techniques/strategies. #Leadership has only one task i.e. Empowering/encouraging/motivating/uplifting/nourishing people. Combining the two is effectiveness!
2) Leadership Positions are not merely roles of power. It's an obligation to help/empower/encourage/motivate/uplifting/nourishing people to be successful & happy.
3) BOSSES should act before they speak and think before they act, because actions has more volume than words.
4) BOSSES has ATTITUDE PROBLEM as their positive attitudes must serve them primarily, make themselves and their team feel encouraged/empowered.
5) The biggest problem i had noted in BOSSES is that, "THEY TAKE EVERYTHING FOR GRANTED JUST FOR BEING A BOSS"
I recollect Mr. Dinesh Divekar efforts as he had met more than 100 M.D's and found their attitudes in common. I really wonder,
- Why is it difficult for employees to MOTIVATE their BOSSES, POSITIVELY?
- Why are we employees failing to motivate our bosses?
- Boss can speak anything against his/her employee but an employee can't - Don't you all, feel this is Strange? I feel that, Its not balanced work culture between BOSS AND EMPLOYEE.
- Why don't BOSSES think without SUPERIORITY COMPLEX?
There are many queries which need to be answer by BOSS himself, but i don't know whether he/she will love to listen to such queries. Wish if we could ELIMINATE the WORD BOOS and REPLACE it with LEADER, that should change the whole scenario, this is what i feel and i hope, in many organisations transformation is in progress.
Rather discussing among our-self, lets focus on Mr. Dinesh Pillai and get the objective done of this forum..
Have a nice day....and do correct me if i am wrong.....
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
Quite interesting discussion is going on here. I agree with Mr. Hussain that, we must maintain decorum of language. What i understood from Mr. Dinesh Pillai's post is that, he was just communicating from his heart without evaluating his BOSS on the whole. Before we respond to Mr. Dinesh Pillai, We should find out "what made him to post such comments about his boss". We need to understand Mr. Dinesh Pillai but not his BOSS. I am sure this will help us to guide all those members seeking appropriate inputs from us.
Our replies should be based on Mr. Dinesh Pillai's inputs. Mr. Simhans approach, dealing with members for acquiring relevant information is quite practical and i truly appreciate it, because its really productive, realistic and practical approach. This approach had bridged the gap between seeker and adviser resulting productive discussions.
Mr. Hussain, its definitely not all about taking revenge but, it is the outcome of the RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN BOSS AND EMPLOYEE. It is the responsibility of the BOSS to MAINTAIN HEALTHY AND POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP with his/her employees rather making them feel that "HE/SHE IS JUST A BOSS - DEMONSTRATING THE SIGN OF SUPERIORITY AND HIS/HER POWERS" This reflects organisation's WORK CULTURE as well.
BOSS cannot be compared with MOTHER NATURE in anyway.
I agree to Mr. Simhan, UPWARD FEEDBACK or 360 Degree Appraisal about BOSS will reveal much more than everything, if it is allowed anonymously. A GOOD SIGN OF A GOOD BOSS - will LISTEN and ACCEPTS CRITICS, in whatever shape they may be. This is the best way to understand his team.
Ms. (Cite Contribution) had pointed out the right attributes of attitude/behaviour - affable and receptive, associated with good leadership skills
One thing i had noted that, none of us likes to mess up with BOSS because he is BOSS, but why we don't take it in a positive sense to make him a better LEADER because BOSSESS falls under the MANAGEMENT category therefore
1) Management has to have mastery on techniques/strategies. #Leadership has only one task i.e. Empowering/encouraging/motivating/uplifting/nourishing people. Combining the two is effectiveness!
2) Leadership Positions are not merely roles of power. It's an obligation to help/empower/encourage/motivate/uplifting/nourishing people to be successful & happy.
3) BOSSES should act before they speak and think before they act, because actions has more volume than words.
4) BOSSES has ATTITUDE PROBLEM as their positive attitudes must serve them primarily, make themselves and their team feel encouraged/empowered.
5) The biggest problem i had noted in BOSSES is that, "THEY TAKE EVERYTHING FOR GRANTED JUST FOR BEING A BOSS"
I recollect Mr. Dinesh Divekar efforts as he had met more than 100 M.D's and found their attitudes in common. I really wonder,
- Why is it difficult for employees to MOTIVATE their BOSSES, POSITIVELY?
- Why are we employees failing to motivate our bosses?
- Boss can speak anything against his/her employee but an employee can't - Don't you all, feel this is Strange? I feel that, Its not balanced work culture between BOSS AND EMPLOYEE.
- Why don't BOSSES think without SUPERIORITY COMPLEX?
There are many queries which need to be answer by BOSS himself, but i don't know whether he/she will love to listen to such queries. Wish if we could ELIMINATE the WORD BOOS and REPLACE it with LEADER, that should change the whole scenario, this is what i feel and i hope, in many organisations transformation is in progress.
Rather discussing among our-self, lets focus on Mr. Dinesh Pillai and get the objective done of this forum..
Have a nice day....and do correct me if i am wrong.....
With profound regards
From India, Chennai
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