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i have work for an organization for 1.5 years in 2005-2006. after i join other organization,in year 2009 i ave send form 19 to my first employer.they emideatly send me a form (clearance certificate) for fynel settelment.from till date i have not send them this form while communicating them they tell that do your final sattelment.then they relese my PF.what should i do.
thankas
bhaskar tripathi

From India, Bangalore
Now you do one thing. Take a print out each of form 19 and form 10C (print on both sides of the respective forms) and fill in the particulars of your employment including your PF number(I guess, you know your PF number) and get the forms attested by the Manager of the Bank to which you want to transfer the PF accumulations and attach a cancelled cheque leaf (to felicitate electronic transfer of funds by the PF) and submit the same to the Provident Fund Office where your company's PF accounts are maintained. The amount will be credited to your account without any signature from your employer.
Regards,
Madhu.T.K

From India, Kannur
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Dear Madhu,
I have submitted my PF form (duly signed by a gazetted officer) but it got rejected sighting the reason that the authorised official's signature mis-match with the office record.
Now, I have submitted :
1. Form 19 (signed by the gazetted officer-one signature of the second page)
2. Form 10C (Signed by the gazetted officer-one signature on 'signature of employer/authorised official)
3. Bank statement
Kindly help me to understand the problem.
Some more info :
Quit on 2nd Feb 2008 and claiming now as my employer refused to sign my PF form.
Regards,
Prachurya

From India, Delhi
Prachurya may contact the PF Office and ask on what basis did they reject the forms attested by Gazetted officer when he is duly authorised to attest the form. I believe it may be due to some other reasons.
Madhu.T.K

From India, Kannur
Hi Madhu,
I have contacted the PRO of RPFO Jaipur (0141-2742699), he said the rule has changed and now the withdrawal forms has to duly authorised by the employer if the unit employed is still running.
And when i said that on the 19C its written that any gazetted officer can authorise the withdrawal form, he replied that the forms are old and yet not changed to the new version. But the form has to authorised by the employer only.
And now I am confused.
Do you have any idea about the new rule.
Regards,
Prachurya

From India, Delhi
The rule has not been changed, I believe. I also know that there are Officers in the EPFO who refuse to accept forms but all have very strong personal and financial relationship with certain employers, due to which they reject forms signed by Bank Managers or gazetted officers. You may do one thing, ask him to quote the notification making the employer as the sole authorised person to sign form 19 and 10C. If you say that you would otherwise file an application under Right To Information Act, I think the answer may be different.
Anyway, if the rule authorising a gazetted officer, bank manager, MLA/MP etc to sign form 19 and 10C, has changed, please let us know.
Regards,
Madhu.T.K

From India, Kannur
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