Hi all,
I have been lucky to be associated with Sangeeth, a visionary leader, and together we are trying to unravel the methods required to produce more leaders in India.
While there is a lot of talk on leadership development, the subject needs to be dealt with a lot more seriousness and thought, to ensure further groth and development of India. If India develops, we all develop.
Just below the surface of a much talked about economic growth, India is still left with a quagmire of problems to deal with - corruption, poverty, in adequate infrastructure.
To add to this, India's existing system focuses on creating a band of doers: managers and programmers to facilitate a growth primarily based on cost competency.
Unlike other developed nations (19th C Europe, 20th C USA), who developed by focusing on developing individual leadership and institutions which support leaders, India is focusing on short-term gains
Our position cannot be more precarious than this - What is our way out?
But how do we go about it? I wish to solicit ideas from you all.
From India, Delhi
3I have been lucky to be associated with Sangeeth, a visionary leader, and together we are trying to unravel the methods required to produce more leaders in India.
While there is a lot of talk on leadership development, the subject needs to be dealt with a lot more seriousness and thought, to ensure further groth and development of India. If India develops, we all develop.
Just below the surface of a much talked about economic growth, India is still left with a quagmire of problems to deal with - corruption, poverty, in adequate infrastructure.
To add to this, India's existing system focuses on creating a band of doers: managers and programmers to facilitate a growth primarily based on cost competency.
Unlike other developed nations (19th C Europe, 20th C USA), who developed by focusing on developing individual leadership and institutions which support leaders, India is focusing on short-term gains
Our position cannot be more precarious than this - What is our way out?
- To move to the next level India should focus on creating more leaders, innovators and entrepreneurs who can bring in multifold value compared to the existing system. We should build India as a nation of leaders to develop her as a leader among nations.
- To be a leader among nations, India should focus on creating leaders who can create multifold value to the system than blindly relying on cost competency
- To be a leader among nations, India should focus on creating more dreamers than just the doers - the managers, analysts, programmers. We should focus on creating more entrepreneurs, innovators and change architects.
- To be a leader among nations, India should focus on creating leaders who can create more jobs in the economy, leverage scarce resources, sustain growth levels, and preserve our democracy.
- To be a leader among nations, India should create leaders who can visionise, align and motivate.
But how do we go about it? I wish to solicit ideas from you all.
From India, Delhi
Dear Navinder,
Leaders with no followers, make them no special.
I dont know, where you got the above stated statistics, Indian Economy is very strong and only sustainable economy in the face of International Upheaval
If you mean US and other European countries as more leadership oriented, then you are wrong for they never could come up with long term Strategic growth plans and always copied strategies from Asian Countries to be more specific from Japan and India and some what from Russia
And that is the reason so many problems in their economy and thats the reason, Dollar is very soon going to be out run by EURO in International Business
I am attaching a ppt for better communication of my thought line, hope you get the idea
FOR MAN TO BE LEADER, SHOULD FIRST MASTER ART OF TURNING ADVERSITIES OUR STRENGTH
TODAY LACK OF LEADERS IS NOT THE PROBLEM, BUT LACK OF FOLLOWERS IS...............
Thank You
Octavious
PLEASE DON'T BE DISCOURAGED BY THE SHEER SIZE OF THIS POWER POINT SHOW..... PLEASE READ RIGHT THROUGH...ITS REALLY WORTH THE EFFORT...
From India, Mumbai
Leaders with no followers, make them no special.
I dont know, where you got the above stated statistics, Indian Economy is very strong and only sustainable economy in the face of International Upheaval
If you mean US and other European countries as more leadership oriented, then you are wrong for they never could come up with long term Strategic growth plans and always copied strategies from Asian Countries to be more specific from Japan and India and some what from Russia
And that is the reason so many problems in their economy and thats the reason, Dollar is very soon going to be out run by EURO in International Business
I am attaching a ppt for better communication of my thought line, hope you get the idea
FOR MAN TO BE LEADER, SHOULD FIRST MASTER ART OF TURNING ADVERSITIES OUR STRENGTH
TODAY LACK OF LEADERS IS NOT THE PROBLEM, BUT LACK OF FOLLOWERS IS...............
Thank You
Octavious
PLEASE DON'T BE DISCOURAGED BY THE SHEER SIZE OF THIS POWER POINT SHOW..... PLEASE READ RIGHT THROUGH...ITS REALLY WORTH THE EFFORT...
From India, Mumbai
Dear Octavious
I had read ur comments a long time back, and was not in agreement. The basic problem in India is that we have more followers than leaders. It may have something to do with the centuries of domination by foreign rulers, one can't say - but definitely it surprises why Israel, being a smaller country, leads in so many ways as against a huge country as ours...and isnt the Olympics a fine example?
The article below will further enhance understanding and discussion on the subject.
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Do you wish to be a leader?
PARAMAHAMSA SRI NITHYANANDA
WE ARE built upon our identities. We are lost without them. As long as we feel we’re a separate entity, a unique individual, we’ll hold on to that distinction. We’re all, each one of us, a part of the Collective Consciousness that unifies the entire universe. Holding on to the individual identity simply compounds our problems. When we cling to the idea of being separate, we bring many problems.
At the physical level, if we think we’re separate from nature or universe, we’ll be inviting diseases. In our mind, at the mental level, if we think that we’re unconnected then we’re sowing the seeds of violence. We turn selfish, dogmatic, and violent. We become terrorists.
We can unite only when we work within the spirit of Collective Consciousness. When we work from the level of individual consciousness, we begin to dissect. We examine these bits and pieces. Logic always breaks. Intuition always unites. At the level of spirit, or the spiritual level, the Collective Consciousness operates to unite. If we think we each are individuals, there is no possibility of any spiritual growth. Spiritually, we can’t even take the first baby steps.
Let us look at ourselves this way. At the physical level, we’re not individuals. Our body and nature are much closer than we think possible. For instance, the sun and our body are deeply interconnected. A small change in the sun triggers changes in our body. Logically, we might not be able to relate to it. This is true.
We’re connected by thoughts, our mind. A thought from somebody’s mind comes and touches us. Similarly, a thought created in someone’s mind travels to touch another mind. A thought, sowed by someone else, can touch us. The thoughts have power to affect us. Thoughts are like ripples on the waters of a lake.
If our ripples are strong, like a wave, we create a strong wave. We’ll create an impression with our thoughts. We’ll be leading and inspiring others by our thoughts. If our thoughts aren’t from our depth, other thought waves will impress upon us.
We can be a leader or a follower. There is nothing in between. We always think, ‘I’ll not be a leader. I can’t do that much. I’ll not be a follower either. I’ll maintain my own stand.’ This is impractical. Lead or follow. You cannot stay in between. But, why would you want to be a follower when you can just easily be a leader?
Be a leader. Think of yourself as the leader. Influence others with your thoughts. People will follow. It is that simple.
From India, Delhi
I had read ur comments a long time back, and was not in agreement. The basic problem in India is that we have more followers than leaders. It may have something to do with the centuries of domination by foreign rulers, one can't say - but definitely it surprises why Israel, being a smaller country, leads in so many ways as against a huge country as ours...and isnt the Olympics a fine example?
The article below will further enhance understanding and discussion on the subject.
-----
Do you wish to be a leader?
PARAMAHAMSA SRI NITHYANANDA
WE ARE built upon our identities. We are lost without them. As long as we feel we’re a separate entity, a unique individual, we’ll hold on to that distinction. We’re all, each one of us, a part of the Collective Consciousness that unifies the entire universe. Holding on to the individual identity simply compounds our problems. When we cling to the idea of being separate, we bring many problems.
At the physical level, if we think we’re separate from nature or universe, we’ll be inviting diseases. In our mind, at the mental level, if we think that we’re unconnected then we’re sowing the seeds of violence. We turn selfish, dogmatic, and violent. We become terrorists.
We can unite only when we work within the spirit of Collective Consciousness. When we work from the level of individual consciousness, we begin to dissect. We examine these bits and pieces. Logic always breaks. Intuition always unites. At the level of spirit, or the spiritual level, the Collective Consciousness operates to unite. If we think we each are individuals, there is no possibility of any spiritual growth. Spiritually, we can’t even take the first baby steps.
Let us look at ourselves this way. At the physical level, we’re not individuals. Our body and nature are much closer than we think possible. For instance, the sun and our body are deeply interconnected. A small change in the sun triggers changes in our body. Logically, we might not be able to relate to it. This is true.
We’re connected by thoughts, our mind. A thought from somebody’s mind comes and touches us. Similarly, a thought created in someone’s mind travels to touch another mind. A thought, sowed by someone else, can touch us. The thoughts have power to affect us. Thoughts are like ripples on the waters of a lake.
If our ripples are strong, like a wave, we create a strong wave. We’ll create an impression with our thoughts. We’ll be leading and inspiring others by our thoughts. If our thoughts aren’t from our depth, other thought waves will impress upon us.
We can be a leader or a follower. There is nothing in between. We always think, ‘I’ll not be a leader. I can’t do that much. I’ll not be a follower either. I’ll maintain my own stand.’ This is impractical. Lead or follow. You cannot stay in between. But, why would you want to be a follower when you can just easily be a leader?
Be a leader. Think of yourself as the leader. Influence others with your thoughts. People will follow. It is that simple.
From India, Delhi
Hello
I am sorry, I just saw your comments today only.
Your right, there is some effect of Foreign domination, otherwise why would you, instead turning back and looking into our own history and understanding the fact that, no matter how many foreign invasion India has witnessed it has never ever lost its originality, cite an example of Israel.
Israel is a different nation altogether, their principle of governance is totally different, for they have all together different social and political origin.
And thanks, for citing the example of Olympics, the event of Olympics clearly show that we have leaders who can emerge out of adversity in a victories manner. But again here you choose to see how we only got so less,but not the fact that what ever we got was with out any efforts that other nations players received from their government, again you proved me right on my comment that there are very few good followers
Thank You
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
I am sorry, I just saw your comments today only.
Your right, there is some effect of Foreign domination, otherwise why would you, instead turning back and looking into our own history and understanding the fact that, no matter how many foreign invasion India has witnessed it has never ever lost its originality, cite an example of Israel.
Israel is a different nation altogether, their principle of governance is totally different, for they have all together different social and political origin.
And thanks, for citing the example of Olympics, the event of Olympics clearly show that we have leaders who can emerge out of adversity in a victories manner. But again here you choose to see how we only got so less,but not the fact that what ever we got was with out any efforts that other nations players received from their government, again you proved me right on my comment that there are very few good followers
Thank You
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
Thankyou, Octavious, for continuing with the discussion. I feel we both are ultimately saying the same thing, it is only a matter of symantics and our interpretation.
Whenever followers become 'very good', they cease to be mere followers - they in fact become leaders in their own right. Leadership is not confined to any terrain or domain - it is a developed trait that makes a difference in everything you do. See around, we need more and more leaders everywhere - we are constrained to meet the deadlines of the Commonwealth games in creating the desired infrastructure. We need better coaches for our sportsmen and sportswomen.We need to build better roads, cheaper houses, cleaner environments. We need to have better schools with conscientious teachers, parents who can be beacons for their children...the task ahead is onerous if India has to truly become 'powerful'.
It was in this context that I put forth my views. 'Following' needs no commitment - 'Leading' does. At the same time 'following' is not a bad thing; every leader in a domain is a follower in another. The issue is ensuring that everyone has his domain of leadership - and for this providing the domain is not a problem, but providing the motivation is!
Cheers
From India, Delhi
Whenever followers become 'very good', they cease to be mere followers - they in fact become leaders in their own right. Leadership is not confined to any terrain or domain - it is a developed trait that makes a difference in everything you do. See around, we need more and more leaders everywhere - we are constrained to meet the deadlines of the Commonwealth games in creating the desired infrastructure. We need better coaches for our sportsmen and sportswomen.We need to build better roads, cheaper houses, cleaner environments. We need to have better schools with conscientious teachers, parents who can be beacons for their children...the task ahead is onerous if India has to truly become 'powerful'.
It was in this context that I put forth my views. 'Following' needs no commitment - 'Leading' does. At the same time 'following' is not a bad thing; every leader in a domain is a follower in another. The issue is ensuring that everyone has his domain of leadership - and for this providing the domain is not a problem, but providing the motivation is!
Cheers
From India, Delhi
Hi,
Great point for discussion...
India has 400 years of foriegn rule one way or other. We forgot or lost some of our leadership skills. We are taking sometime to pickup leadership taits in westren style, but when once we pickup I think we will lead. It is not long way.
We have leadership taught in various ways. Look at Ramayan, Mahabharat or Gita and Panchatantra they all teach leadership and rule for being a good leader.
Your comments are welcome.
Thanks and regards,
Chandra Sekhar
From India, Bangalore
Great point for discussion...
India has 400 years of foriegn rule one way or other. We forgot or lost some of our leadership skills. We are taking sometime to pickup leadership taits in westren style, but when once we pickup I think we will lead. It is not long way.
We have leadership taught in various ways. Look at Ramayan, Mahabharat or Gita and Panchatantra they all teach leadership and rule for being a good leader.
Your comments are welcome.
Thanks and regards,
Chandra Sekhar
From India, Bangalore
Another quote I came across today-
"Leadership consists not in degrees of technique but in traits of character; it requires moral rather than athletic or intellectual effort, and it imposes on both leader and follower alike the burdens of self-restraint."
Considering the depravity prevalent in the Indian society, it is a clear statement on the quality of leaders in our country. But it is certainly not the indicator of the potential, as such a large country as ours has the capacity to retain 'pockets of resistance' which are capable of creating a revolution.
With so many thoughts on leadership happening, and the youth stepping forward with great ideas and execution plans, things seem to be changing.
Would love more comments!
Cheers
From India, Delhi
"Leadership consists not in degrees of technique but in traits of character; it requires moral rather than athletic or intellectual effort, and it imposes on both leader and follower alike the burdens of self-restraint."
Considering the depravity prevalent in the Indian society, it is a clear statement on the quality of leaders in our country. But it is certainly not the indicator of the potential, as such a large country as ours has the capacity to retain 'pockets of resistance' which are capable of creating a revolution.
With so many thoughts on leadership happening, and the youth stepping forward with great ideas and execution plans, things seem to be changing.
Would love more comments!
Cheers
From India, Delhi
Dear Sir,
I agree to you in toto, India needs leaders and with high personal integrity. In a country of more than 100 Cr population its ridiculous to study theories based on western leaders. Mahatma Gandhi led this nation with 'truth and non voilence' which united India. Untill Gandhi, leaders were considered as army chiefs. As you rightly said India has abundance of spiritual intelligence and I feel let us teach world the spirituality that makes a difference.
To be a leader among nations, India should focus on creating leaders with high integrity and who can make prominent value addition to others lives by demonstrating leadership.
From India, Pune
I agree to you in toto, India needs leaders and with high personal integrity. In a country of more than 100 Cr population its ridiculous to study theories based on western leaders. Mahatma Gandhi led this nation with 'truth and non voilence' which united India. Untill Gandhi, leaders were considered as army chiefs. As you rightly said India has abundance of spiritual intelligence and I feel let us teach world the spirituality that makes a difference.
To be a leader among nations, India should focus on creating leaders with high integrity and who can make prominent value addition to others lives by demonstrating leadership.
From India, Pune
Thanks for your views, Rahul.
It just occured to me that somehow, we tend to always look upon some role model, like Gandhiji, to feel about leadership. Why so? Is it that we have eulogised him and others so much that we ourselves feel incompetent? Why are we always demonstrated the 'Power of One' that Mother Teresa, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, and the like have? Why aren't we motivated to feel 'adequate' about the leadership qualities that we all can develop and work collectively towards a common goal?
Leaders like Gandhi are rare; its definitely not easy to shed the robe of materialism in search for 'truth'. However, we have sufficient candidates for 2nd rung, 3rd rung, and further rungs of leadership, and many more waiting to be tickled, tapped, motivated to realise their potential and create the 'rennaisance' required to garner the long-awaited glory of a 'Leader Nation'. I have deliberately avoided the word 'Super Power' as it reeks of ego, selfishness, and the beginning of the end of the entire process of development.
Maybe, if we have to become a nation of leaders, we need to dwell on and develop this thought.
From India, Delhi
It just occured to me that somehow, we tend to always look upon some role model, like Gandhiji, to feel about leadership. Why so? Is it that we have eulogised him and others so much that we ourselves feel incompetent? Why are we always demonstrated the 'Power of One' that Mother Teresa, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, and the like have? Why aren't we motivated to feel 'adequate' about the leadership qualities that we all can develop and work collectively towards a common goal?
Leaders like Gandhi are rare; its definitely not easy to shed the robe of materialism in search for 'truth'. However, we have sufficient candidates for 2nd rung, 3rd rung, and further rungs of leadership, and many more waiting to be tickled, tapped, motivated to realise their potential and create the 'rennaisance' required to garner the long-awaited glory of a 'Leader Nation'. I have deliberately avoided the word 'Super Power' as it reeks of ego, selfishness, and the beginning of the end of the entire process of development.
Maybe, if we have to become a nation of leaders, we need to dwell on and develop this thought.
From India, Delhi
To move India to the next level, the focus should be on creating more leaders, innovators and entrepreneurs who can bring in multifold value compared to the existing system. We should build India as a nation of leaders to develop her as a leader among nations. For this, there should be a vision for: -
- Creating leaders who can create multifold value to the system than blindly relying on cost competency.
- Creating more dreamers than just the doers - the managers, analysts, programmers. We should focus on creating more entrepreneurs, innovators and change architects.
- Creating leaders who can create more jobs in the economy, leverage scarce resources, sustain growth levels, and preserve our democracy.
- Creating leaders who can plan, align and motivate.
From India, Delhi
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