Dear Ashish,
I have read this thread with interest. I will try and summarize the situation before making a comment. Please correct me if I am wrong.
The founder manger of your company is in States. You used to report to him before. Now the founder has appointed 2 managers, and you have to report to them. The founder has no interest in day to day affair and trusts these managers. As these managers are from the technical field they are asking questions on HR and Financial matters and expect you and the Finance Head to teach them everything.
What caught my attention and prompted me to make this observation and comment is your following statement "..And What about our job security of we train then on all subjects??? bcoz mainly every individual wants to be like as a HR..".
As others have stated, it's the duty of a boss to understand how others function; it helps them to appreciate the problems involved.
From United Kingdom
1624I have read this thread with interest. I will try and summarize the situation before making a comment. Please correct me if I am wrong.
The founder manger of your company is in States. You used to report to him before. Now the founder has appointed 2 managers, and you have to report to them. The founder has no interest in day to day affair and trusts these managers. As these managers are from the technical field they are asking questions on HR and Financial matters and expect you and the Finance Head to teach them everything.
What caught my attention and prompted me to make this observation and comment is your following statement "..And What about our job security of we train then on all subjects??? bcoz mainly every individual wants to be like as a HR..".
As others have stated, it's the duty of a boss to understand how others function; it helps them to appreciate the problems involved.
From United Kingdom
Hello Simhan Sir,
Before these directors we have a other directors who are very good at management skills with good educational qualification, before change management procedures founder is not my reporting manager only director was.I am in HR Department sir not in Finance department.
I am worried about the companies future as they are only good at technical not in management function.
Again repeating ;before previous management i was not authorized for anything or not now, i am happy that i am involved in change management procedure and learn extraordinary.
Hope anyone ( employee ) cant take the advantage of their less knowledge.
Regards,
Ashish
From India, Pune
Before these directors we have a other directors who are very good at management skills with good educational qualification, before change management procedures founder is not my reporting manager only director was.I am in HR Department sir not in Finance department.
I am worried about the companies future as they are only good at technical not in management function.
Again repeating ;before previous management i was not authorized for anything or not now, i am happy that i am involved in change management procedure and learn extraordinary.
Hope anyone ( employee ) cant take the advantage of their less knowledge.
Regards,
Ashish
From India, Pune
Dear Ashish,
In the circumstances following are my views in addition to what are all advised by others -
First and foremost don't carry your mindset that they don't know anything about Finance & HR, think that they know everything and as and when interacting with you they try to test your knowledge. This will help you to bring best out of yourself in explaining them nuances of these areas.
Secondly, it is nothing new or strange to appoint some one trusted by the bosses who may have knowledge or may not. But it is the responsibility of any subordinate to cope with the working style of such every new incumbents.
Third, it may help you if you will have two important notes which you may supply to them: 1) Finance for Non-Finance executives and 2) Gist of all labour laws. It is no doubt no one can master these two different subjects overnight, but over the nights they can become masters using these notes.
Fourth - Be cautious in explaining to them don't give room for them to arrive at an opinion that you are trying to mislead or giving wrong information. Unless you gain their personal rapport and trust in you you can't win over them.
Fifth - Don't try to pose that you also very close to your US boss, lest it may create ego class between you all. Don't ever forget the watch word Presently they are your bosses and 'Boss is always right' (and boss is boss).
More so it is your learning curve and it may have ups and down and should never touch the bottom of the axis.
All the best.
From India, Bangalore
In the circumstances following are my views in addition to what are all advised by others -
First and foremost don't carry your mindset that they don't know anything about Finance & HR, think that they know everything and as and when interacting with you they try to test your knowledge. This will help you to bring best out of yourself in explaining them nuances of these areas.
Secondly, it is nothing new or strange to appoint some one trusted by the bosses who may have knowledge or may not. But it is the responsibility of any subordinate to cope with the working style of such every new incumbents.
Third, it may help you if you will have two important notes which you may supply to them: 1) Finance for Non-Finance executives and 2) Gist of all labour laws. It is no doubt no one can master these two different subjects overnight, but over the nights they can become masters using these notes.
Fourth - Be cautious in explaining to them don't give room for them to arrive at an opinion that you are trying to mislead or giving wrong information. Unless you gain their personal rapport and trust in you you can't win over them.
Fifth - Don't try to pose that you also very close to your US boss, lest it may create ego class between you all. Don't ever forget the watch word Presently they are your bosses and 'Boss is always right' (and boss is boss).
More so it is your learning curve and it may have ups and down and should never touch the bottom of the axis.
All the best.
From India, Bangalore
Well, if the founder has allowed them to change the policy then at certain level they can do change like sandwich rule for leave policy but changing all the policies as they want is not possible as their are some laws and nobody can deny them.
Also, it very hard to teach them all the things about finance and HR but yes you can guide them for certain things when they ask to let them aware what the reason etc.
Also, even if they are not ready to listen, you need to drop an email whenever you find the change in particular policy is not supported by law or it may harm in terms of ROI or production, welfare etc along with specifying the reasons. Also, include your founder/Head in your email.
Hopefully, they will consider it and do not change the policies those are not supported by the law.
And, even then they not agreed then you should tell them that you can not go against the law to work in that company.
From India, Lucknow
Also, it very hard to teach them all the things about finance and HR but yes you can guide them for certain things when they ask to let them aware what the reason etc.
Also, even if they are not ready to listen, you need to drop an email whenever you find the change in particular policy is not supported by law or it may harm in terms of ROI or production, welfare etc along with specifying the reasons. Also, include your founder/Head in your email.
Hopefully, they will consider it and do not change the policies those are not supported by the law.
And, even then they not agreed then you should tell them that you can not go against the law to work in that company.
From India, Lucknow
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