Blessedheights,
Thanks for your comments and the explanation of T-3. I had a later thought that this is what it might be!
If there are people working as trainers without T-3 certification, but have a good grasp of training fundamentals, then maybe I need to consider relaxing the entry standards a little. However, my Boot Camp is not a Certificate course. Participants will only receive a Certificate of Attendance. It is NOT a training qualification.
As to charges, I notice that many courses seem to run around INR 4000-5000 a day, so at the moment, that is my ball-park figure.
In regard to course content, well each course will be different as it will be based on what the participants want to some extent. I have an outline of what I will cover, but I want to tailor each seminar to meet the requirements of the group as far as possible. That way, participants get more out of it and will go away with new ideas and enthusiasm for their training. The sorts of things that I would possibly cover include presentation skills, ways to make training more interesting, learning to train without Powerpoint, difficult people, assessment methods, training styles, adult learning etc etc. I want to make each Boot Camp interesting, empowering and dynamic.
Keep the comments coming.
From Australia, Melbourne
663Thanks for your comments and the explanation of T-3. I had a later thought that this is what it might be!
If there are people working as trainers without T-3 certification, but have a good grasp of training fundamentals, then maybe I need to consider relaxing the entry standards a little. However, my Boot Camp is not a Certificate course. Participants will only receive a Certificate of Attendance. It is NOT a training qualification.
As to charges, I notice that many courses seem to run around INR 4000-5000 a day, so at the moment, that is my ball-park figure.
In regard to course content, well each course will be different as it will be based on what the participants want to some extent. I have an outline of what I will cover, but I want to tailor each seminar to meet the requirements of the group as far as possible. That way, participants get more out of it and will go away with new ideas and enthusiasm for their training. The sorts of things that I would possibly cover include presentation skills, ways to make training more interesting, learning to train without Powerpoint, difficult people, assessment methods, training styles, adult learning etc etc. I want to make each Boot Camp interesting, empowering and dynamic.
Keep the comments coming.
From Australia, Melbourne
Dear John,
I think what you have proposed here is an excellent idea! I wish you all the very best for your endeavour. However, training programs in India usually cost anywhere between Rs. 18000-Rs. 20000 for 3 days. This is the ballpark figure for exceptionally good programs.
I feel you should revise your ballpark figure to about INR 1500-2000 for a 1 day induction program. The reason I'm suggesting this is because not many people would be willing to pay up Rs. 4000-5000 for a program where all they will get is a certificate of attendance / participation. It has to have more value add than that for enticing people to pay that much.
A suggestion for topics you would be covering: conflict resolution and how to handle big groups (consider group think and its challenges for trainers). Also what you could do is ask a few people to present the toughest scenarios / challenges they have faced, and talk about it, as that would lead to more ideas dropping in.
Please let me know what you think about my ideas. I'll be happy to help you.
Regards,
Simran Soni
From India, Delhi
I think what you have proposed here is an excellent idea! I wish you all the very best for your endeavour. However, training programs in India usually cost anywhere between Rs. 18000-Rs. 20000 for 3 days. This is the ballpark figure for exceptionally good programs.
I feel you should revise your ballpark figure to about INR 1500-2000 for a 1 day induction program. The reason I'm suggesting this is because not many people would be willing to pay up Rs. 4000-5000 for a program where all they will get is a certificate of attendance / participation. It has to have more value add than that for enticing people to pay that much.
A suggestion for topics you would be covering: conflict resolution and how to handle big groups (consider group think and its challenges for trainers). Also what you could do is ask a few people to present the toughest scenarios / challenges they have faced, and talk about it, as that would lead to more ideas dropping in.
Please let me know what you think about my ideas. I'll be happy to help you.
Regards,
Simran Soni
From India, Delhi
Hi Simran,
Thanks for your comments.
May I say firstly, this Boot Camp is NOT an Induction Program. It is designed for established trainers working in the field and looking to enhance their training skillset and move up a notch. It is not designed to take the place of T-3. Anyone needing a formal Indian qualification in training still needs to do the basic Train the Trainer course.
What I want to do is take people who enjoy training but have found that the basic training only got them started. They now want to build on those skills and make their training more enjoyable, more useful, more successful. After awhile you recognise that there are challenges in training and there is more to learn in how to deal with those challenges.
A Boot Camp such as this also enables a group of trainers to come together and explore different ways of doing things and learn what works and what doesn't, how each of us tackles different things etc.
I liked your suggestions for topics to include, they are very good points, particularly talking about our toughest scenarios. I am just thinking about one I faced some years ago right now!!
Thank you for your valuable input.
From Australia, Melbourne
Thanks for your comments.
May I say firstly, this Boot Camp is NOT an Induction Program. It is designed for established trainers working in the field and looking to enhance their training skillset and move up a notch. It is not designed to take the place of T-3. Anyone needing a formal Indian qualification in training still needs to do the basic Train the Trainer course.
What I want to do is take people who enjoy training but have found that the basic training only got them started. They now want to build on those skills and make their training more enjoyable, more useful, more successful. After awhile you recognise that there are challenges in training and there is more to learn in how to deal with those challenges.
A Boot Camp such as this also enables a group of trainers to come together and explore different ways of doing things and learn what works and what doesn't, how each of us tackles different things etc.
I liked your suggestions for topics to include, they are very good points, particularly talking about our toughest scenarios. I am just thinking about one I faced some years ago right now!!
Thank you for your valuable input.
From Australia, Melbourne
Dear John
So 1]
Entry criterion is that one is a PRACTISING trainer and not a T-3ed one,
2]
the intangible pre-requisite is that the person be passionate about training,
and 3]
the investment ballpark is INR 4-5K multiplied by 2 (days).
4]
One gets a certificate of participation.
Have I got that right ?
A 5k INR (total, not per day) workshop
with a partcipation cert ---- for passionate trainers who just want to get better ---- should be feasible to promote
(I did not say easily).
Your ballpark too would work IF your overseas BRAND
as well as
how you wisely word that participation cert &/or what you CALL your program are all ADVANTAGEOUS IN TERMS OF one facing one's local market.
Already
your proposed price is feasible in Mumbai and perhaps Bangalore.
John, my OWN mistake is that, till date, I offer my value sllightly vaguely.
Specify
(and do so with both someone's passion AND his own market in mind)
what transformation you are delivering.
In your case, mention it on that certificate too.
I knew a person who would be sure to have
more specific AND SURE-FIRE actual market-solutions for you,
but these days
I am unsure how forthcoming he would be !!!
Try
calling Mr Gaurav Gill at +91-9810430295. Mention me if necessary.
Gaurav is the NCR (
national capital region --- Delhi and.......).
BTW -- My name is Debanik, and Iam often called Deb.
"blessedheights ", I realize, is inconvenient.
Regards
From India, New Delhi
So 1]
Entry criterion is that one is a PRACTISING trainer and not a T-3ed one,
2]
the intangible pre-requisite is that the person be passionate about training,
and 3]
the investment ballpark is INR 4-5K multiplied by 2 (days).
4]
One gets a certificate of participation.
Have I got that right ?
A 5k INR (total, not per day) workshop
with a partcipation cert ---- for passionate trainers who just want to get better ---- should be feasible to promote
(I did not say easily).
Your ballpark too would work IF your overseas BRAND
as well as
how you wisely word that participation cert &/or what you CALL your program are all ADVANTAGEOUS IN TERMS OF one facing one's local market.
Already
your proposed price is feasible in Mumbai and perhaps Bangalore.
John, my OWN mistake is that, till date, I offer my value sllightly vaguely.
Specify
(and do so with both someone's passion AND his own market in mind)
what transformation you are delivering.
In your case, mention it on that certificate too.
I knew a person who would be sure to have
more specific AND SURE-FIRE actual market-solutions for you,
but these days
I am unsure how forthcoming he would be !!!
Try
calling Mr Gaurav Gill at +91-9810430295. Mention me if necessary.
Gaurav is the NCR (
national capital region --- Delhi and.......).
BTW -- My name is Debanik, and Iam often called Deb.
"blessedheights ", I realize, is inconvenient.
Regards
From India, New Delhi
Hi Debanik,
Thanks for your comments.
Your summing up in the first paragraph is pretty close to the mark. Ideally it would be for trainers with T-3, but now I recognise that some of my proposed market may not be qualified, but good trainers none-the-less. I can be flexible.
The only proviso is that unqualified trainers would not be able to use this boot camp as evidence of a qualification. I have no authority to issue certificates of qualification in India. In any case, if I was to teach a T-3 course, it would be about 7 or 8 days to do it properly, though I do not know what T-3 entails in India. It may not be as complex as the training qualification in Oz.
As for specifying the "transformation" I am offering, well that is the intangible here, particularly as my plan is to tailor the boot camp to each particular group that undertakes it. Each participant is going to take away something different, whether it be in improved presentation skills, new ways of engaging trainees, or getting a handle on dealing with difficult people, etc etc. I want to make this training relevant to each and every participant as best I can, not a one size fits all scenario. Most of us who are trainers will know that approach is fraught with difficulty and hard to obtain optimum results.
I am beginning to realise that this is perhaps a totally new concept for India and that my style of training is somewhat different. It may even be a new concept elsewhere as well. I am not aware even of other trainers doing it here in Oz.
I used to train in Job Search and Interview Skills some years ago, and this is where I started using the techniques of tailoring the course to the group. I had certain material to cover during the course, but I adapted it to each new group. I taught that 10 day course about 20 times and every time it was different. And that makes it more interesting for the trainer as it is never the same thing over and over again!
So maybe India is not the place to trial this boot camp.
From Australia, Melbourne
Thanks for your comments.
Your summing up in the first paragraph is pretty close to the mark. Ideally it would be for trainers with T-3, but now I recognise that some of my proposed market may not be qualified, but good trainers none-the-less. I can be flexible.
The only proviso is that unqualified trainers would not be able to use this boot camp as evidence of a qualification. I have no authority to issue certificates of qualification in India. In any case, if I was to teach a T-3 course, it would be about 7 or 8 days to do it properly, though I do not know what T-3 entails in India. It may not be as complex as the training qualification in Oz.
As for specifying the "transformation" I am offering, well that is the intangible here, particularly as my plan is to tailor the boot camp to each particular group that undertakes it. Each participant is going to take away something different, whether it be in improved presentation skills, new ways of engaging trainees, or getting a handle on dealing with difficult people, etc etc. I want to make this training relevant to each and every participant as best I can, not a one size fits all scenario. Most of us who are trainers will know that approach is fraught with difficulty and hard to obtain optimum results.
I am beginning to realise that this is perhaps a totally new concept for India and that my style of training is somewhat different. It may even be a new concept elsewhere as well. I am not aware even of other trainers doing it here in Oz.
I used to train in Job Search and Interview Skills some years ago, and this is where I started using the techniques of tailoring the course to the group. I had certain material to cover during the course, but I adapted it to each new group. I taught that 10 day course about 20 times and every time it was different. And that makes it more interesting for the trainer as it is never the same thing over and over again!
So maybe India is not the place to trial this boot camp.
From Australia, Melbourne
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