Dear Aloysius
Thanks for your posting.. I agree with your opinion partially.
Every Indian should invariably undergo defence training for a certain period. Really it would teach many things in life. Discipline, patriotism, cutural diversity, etc.
Further I also agree with your example of a soldier risen to the level of Head-HR in a span of ten years. I welcome him and salute.
But my concern is that there are some ex-defence personnel are joining the corporate organizations as Head-HR directly without having minimum footage or in-depth knowledge of the activities what I have mentioned in the above posting dt 29-01-10. HR is a wide arena of various aspects including legal compliance, compensation practices/trends, talent acquisition/management, retension strategies, performance management, HR metrics, engagement initiatives, statutory audits, latest HR trends, and so on. Practices / discipline procedures being followed in the corporate industries would be totally different from the defence services. Legal implications would be different. Handling Unions, Locals, liaision with the government, quasi-govt agencies... getting things done by undue means, etc.... to which the defence seniors may not be acquanited with. People mind-set in private sector would be different. Management in private sector ... their attitudes, attitudinal changes... dynamics... would be different...
Under the above scenario, if the Head-HR (ex-defence person) does not have proper prior experiencce in the relevant industry, what would be the state ? Being a Head-HR, his thought process and line of action may not be compatible to the second-line HR professionals. Because these second-line HR people have worked and grown under different corporate environment. These people may not go along with the new Head (ex-defence).
These ex-defence persons (opting Head-HR positions) shall join the corporate organizations in the second line first and get experience of the new sector to become Heads thereafter. But they are certainly un-warranted, if they become Heads directly, whether he is a soldier or an officer. Because he has to gain some practical experience and cope up with the environment.
Your example of soldier is absolutely right, becoming a Head after gaining experience for about ten years.
Hope you will agree with my views.
Regards
Sure
From India, Hyderabad
1Thanks for your posting.. I agree with your opinion partially.
Every Indian should invariably undergo defence training for a certain period. Really it would teach many things in life. Discipline, patriotism, cutural diversity, etc.
Further I also agree with your example of a soldier risen to the level of Head-HR in a span of ten years. I welcome him and salute.
But my concern is that there are some ex-defence personnel are joining the corporate organizations as Head-HR directly without having minimum footage or in-depth knowledge of the activities what I have mentioned in the above posting dt 29-01-10. HR is a wide arena of various aspects including legal compliance, compensation practices/trends, talent acquisition/management, retension strategies, performance management, HR metrics, engagement initiatives, statutory audits, latest HR trends, and so on. Practices / discipline procedures being followed in the corporate industries would be totally different from the defence services. Legal implications would be different. Handling Unions, Locals, liaision with the government, quasi-govt agencies... getting things done by undue means, etc.... to which the defence seniors may not be acquanited with. People mind-set in private sector would be different. Management in private sector ... their attitudes, attitudinal changes... dynamics... would be different...
Under the above scenario, if the Head-HR (ex-defence person) does not have proper prior experiencce in the relevant industry, what would be the state ? Being a Head-HR, his thought process and line of action may not be compatible to the second-line HR professionals. Because these second-line HR people have worked and grown under different corporate environment. These people may not go along with the new Head (ex-defence).
These ex-defence persons (opting Head-HR positions) shall join the corporate organizations in the second line first and get experience of the new sector to become Heads thereafter. But they are certainly un-warranted, if they become Heads directly, whether he is a soldier or an officer. Because he has to gain some practical experience and cope up with the environment.
Your example of soldier is absolutely right, becoming a Head after gaining experience for about ten years.
Hope you will agree with my views.
Regards
Sure
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Friends;
If given an opportunity, any ex-service person can head HR function in a corporate provided he acquires a good PG diploma in HR . but he needs at least 5 years experience in HR function at various levels in Industry, then only he can Head the whole gamut of HR function.Where Personnel Management is prevailing in manufacturing industries, ex- defense persons can really get adjusted with the job easily and also deal with unions in their own way.Welfare and discipline is given importance in their job. But at present where service industries like IT sector requires knowledge and skills in Strategic HRM and Global HRM, and other advanced HRM traits, it may be bit difficult and Ex-servicemen would become a misfit.
From India, Hyderabad
If given an opportunity, any ex-service person can head HR function in a corporate provided he acquires a good PG diploma in HR . but he needs at least 5 years experience in HR function at various levels in Industry, then only he can Head the whole gamut of HR function.Where Personnel Management is prevailing in manufacturing industries, ex- defense persons can really get adjusted with the job easily and also deal with unions in their own way.Welfare and discipline is given importance in their job. But at present where service industries like IT sector requires knowledge and skills in Strategic HRM and Global HRM, and other advanced HRM traits, it may be bit difficult and Ex-servicemen would become a misfit.
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Prabhakarlakku
I agree with your views. Any ex-service person can head HR function in a corporate provided he acquires a good PG diploma in HR . but he needs at least 5 years experience in HR function at various levels in Industry, then only he can Head the whole gamut of HR function.
Regards
vsure
From India, Hyderabad
I agree with your views. Any ex-service person can head HR function in a corporate provided he acquires a good PG diploma in HR . but he needs at least 5 years experience in HR function at various levels in Industry, then only he can Head the whole gamut of HR function.
Regards
vsure
From India, Hyderabad
Hi Friends,
I too agree this and further, I would like to state that no organisation may take an ex-service person as Head - HR without any formal required basic qualification in HR. In addition to that unless an ex-officer has a minimum experience of atleast 5 years(what we call as Short Service Commission), is not recognised in the civil life for these positions. Hence my contention is, in general all these points and requirements what we discuss are taken care. However, there could be some mis fits as a square fit in the round hole, which is unavoidable.
Regards,
T. Aloysius Sahayaraj
From India, Pondicherry
I too agree this and further, I would like to state that no organisation may take an ex-service person as Head - HR without any formal required basic qualification in HR. In addition to that unless an ex-officer has a minimum experience of atleast 5 years(what we call as Short Service Commission), is not recognised in the civil life for these positions. Hence my contention is, in general all these points and requirements what we discuss are taken care. However, there could be some mis fits as a square fit in the round hole, which is unavoidable.
Regards,
T. Aloysius Sahayaraj
From India, Pondicherry
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