Hi Archna,
Lovely one..
This reminds me of famous saying" Love looks not with eyes but with mind ..that's why cupids are painted blind..
How true we need to internalise the things we take for granted..
Rajat
From India, Pune
101Lovely one..
This reminds me of famous saying" Love looks not with eyes but with mind ..that's why cupids are painted blind..
How true we need to internalise the things we take for granted..
Rajat
From India, Pune
The story and the interpretations seem to be a mismatch here. From HR perspective, what can be related to this story is to see other man's point of view and the context in which he quoted so. Thats all. Whether his feeling could be generalised as a condition that should be is debatable. If the weather is adverse, it is adverse. Is it not. Remember, the delight over the weather , otherwise complained by others, is only because that person had regained his sight after 3 years of blindness. Obviously, in his state of mind at that time, whatever he 'sees' will be a matter of delight only. Can he have the same attitude down the line, at the same given circumstances?
yes.. you can relate a lot philosophically. HR, in the present day, needs to be more practical than being philosophical. HR is neither to see anything positive nor negative but in its true state.
No offense, pals. Just a frank comment.
From India, Mumbai
yes.. you can relate a lot philosophically. HR, in the present day, needs to be more practical than being philosophical. HR is neither to see anything positive nor negative but in its true state.
No offense, pals. Just a frank comment.
From India, Mumbai
Hi,
I beg your pardon. Respecting individual perceptions and view points, I submit that the original story points to empathy, sensitivity and a will to appreciate other's view point. Not only there is nothing wrong about, what is right in this approach is the fact that HR without sensitivity and respect for other's feelings and view points is doomed to isolate itself from its own constituency.
Being "practical", "rational" and "objective" is indeed fine but no single strategy works in every situation. HR skill is all about diagnosis of the situation, prescriptions and then the treatment. Because we deal with human beings, emotions/feelings cannot be totally ignored simply because we are told that being "practical" and "rational" and "objective" is the way.
And now Mr. Venakt should please take no offence. We are here to build on each others' strengths.
Further comments invited please.
Regards
samvedan
August 16, 2006
From India, Pune
I beg your pardon. Respecting individual perceptions and view points, I submit that the original story points to empathy, sensitivity and a will to appreciate other's view point. Not only there is nothing wrong about, what is right in this approach is the fact that HR without sensitivity and respect for other's feelings and view points is doomed to isolate itself from its own constituency.
Being "practical", "rational" and "objective" is indeed fine but no single strategy works in every situation. HR skill is all about diagnosis of the situation, prescriptions and then the treatment. Because we deal with human beings, emotions/feelings cannot be totally ignored simply because we are told that being "practical" and "rational" and "objective" is the way.
And now Mr. Venakt should please take no offence. We are here to build on each others' strengths.
Further comments invited please.
Regards
samvedan
August 16, 2006
From India, Pune
Yes. We are here to further each others strength. No debate on this.
Yet, your reply is totally off the track vis a vis my points. Pls revisit the thread of the comments posted on this tropic. You will see the light.
The point stressed is.. While HR may have to deal with emotional situations, HR per se should not be taking decisions and actions emotionally. Again, HR needs to be practical at any given point of time.
Any further thougts.. pls pals.....
From India, Mumbai
Yet, your reply is totally off the track vis a vis my points. Pls revisit the thread of the comments posted on this tropic. You will see the light.
The point stressed is.. While HR may have to deal with emotional situations, HR per se should not be taking decisions and actions emotionally. Again, HR needs to be practical at any given point of time.
Any further thougts.. pls pals.....
From India, Mumbai
Hi,
Honestly, I have never said that HR should be only emotional in solving problems. All I have said is that emotions and feelings cannot be altogether ignored when one is dealing with the only animate resource at the disposal of the management! I have also acknowledged the place for rationality in dealing with HR issues.
God forbid, if HR guys start being "practical" at the cost of emotions and feelings of the Human Resource, the difference between men and machines will soon be totally obliterated.
Even so I am not asking anyone to change personal/professional convictions. To each his own!
Finally "what you sow, so will you reap".
No further comments from my side. Others may join issues and contribute!
Regards
samvedan
August 18, 2006
From India, Pune
Honestly, I have never said that HR should be only emotional in solving problems. All I have said is that emotions and feelings cannot be altogether ignored when one is dealing with the only animate resource at the disposal of the management! I have also acknowledged the place for rationality in dealing with HR issues.
God forbid, if HR guys start being "practical" at the cost of emotions and feelings of the Human Resource, the difference between men and machines will soon be totally obliterated.
Even so I am not asking anyone to change personal/professional convictions. To each his own!
Finally "what you sow, so will you reap".
No further comments from my side. Others may join issues and contribute!
Regards
samvedan
August 18, 2006
From India, Pune
Hi Archna,
As usual, terrific post from you.
I think both Venkat and Samvedan are correct from their points of view. The blind person is happy because he has vision after 3 years, so even if he sees a pile of garbage he will be happy, not for the garbage, but for himself and his restored vision. Once he gets used to his vision, lets say 3 further years later, he might not be so happy to see the garbage.
However, for the rest of us what we can learn from the blind person is that we should be happy with what we have. Most of us hanker and pine for things we dont have. To some extent, that can be a motivationg factor to try harder, work harder, live harder, but we should not forget or not appreciate what we already have.
As for why HR people are mainly girls...i'm happy they are because everybody else are boys..... :wink: :D
From India, Gurgaon
As usual, terrific post from you.
I think both Venkat and Samvedan are correct from their points of view. The blind person is happy because he has vision after 3 years, so even if he sees a pile of garbage he will be happy, not for the garbage, but for himself and his restored vision. Once he gets used to his vision, lets say 3 further years later, he might not be so happy to see the garbage.
However, for the rest of us what we can learn from the blind person is that we should be happy with what we have. Most of us hanker and pine for things we dont have. To some extent, that can be a motivationg factor to try harder, work harder, live harder, but we should not forget or not appreciate what we already have.
As for why HR people are mainly girls...i'm happy they are because everybody else are boys..... :wink: :D
From India, Gurgaon
The moral of any story, anectode, a parable, an adage etcl depends on the way they are being interpreted. How the human mind interprets is quite a peculiar phenomena. Whatever might be the permutation combination of interpretation - at a given juncture, one will interpret what one "wants" to interpret rather than what "actually needs to be" interpreted.
Here is a story to emphasis this fact...
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LEARNING THE RIGHT WAY......
The wood cutter was a sincere man. He was devoted to his work and a firm believer in God. One day while returning from his routine, he saw an old jackal in a hiding place. The jackal was so aged and weak it was evident that it could not hunt to get its prey and was quite hungry. The wood cutter was wondering while the God ensures food for every living creature, how he is going to reach jackal's share of food. He heard the roaring of a lion then, and hurriedly climbed a nearby tree. The lion was dragging its hunted prey - a deer. After devouring the maximum, it left the remaining carcass just near the hiding place of the aged jackal and ran off. A while later, the jackal attracted by the smell of the carcass, came crawling and dragged the left out carcass to its hiding place. The wood cutter was amazed to witness the kindness of the God. He thought he learned a lesson from this incident.
From the next day, he stopped going for his work, hoping God would reach him his share of food. The days passed and week passed. The wood cutter was growing weak and there was no sight of any favour from the God. Unable to bear his hunger & anger anymore, the woodcutter cried aloud "God... why did you disappoint me? what sin have I committed ? I was only trying to practice what I have learned from the incident of that idle jackal getting the food at its door step...."
Then the God answered... " You are a fool.... You should have learned from what the lion did and not what the jackal did."
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From India, Mumbai
Here is a story to emphasis this fact...
=======
LEARNING THE RIGHT WAY......
The wood cutter was a sincere man. He was devoted to his work and a firm believer in God. One day while returning from his routine, he saw an old jackal in a hiding place. The jackal was so aged and weak it was evident that it could not hunt to get its prey and was quite hungry. The wood cutter was wondering while the God ensures food for every living creature, how he is going to reach jackal's share of food. He heard the roaring of a lion then, and hurriedly climbed a nearby tree. The lion was dragging its hunted prey - a deer. After devouring the maximum, it left the remaining carcass just near the hiding place of the aged jackal and ran off. A while later, the jackal attracted by the smell of the carcass, came crawling and dragged the left out carcass to its hiding place. The wood cutter was amazed to witness the kindness of the God. He thought he learned a lesson from this incident.
From the next day, he stopped going for his work, hoping God would reach him his share of food. The days passed and week passed. The wood cutter was growing weak and there was no sight of any favour from the God. Unable to bear his hunger & anger anymore, the woodcutter cried aloud "God... why did you disappoint me? what sin have I committed ? I was only trying to practice what I have learned from the incident of that idle jackal getting the food at its door step...."
Then the God answered... " You are a fool.... You should have learned from what the lion did and not what the jackal did."
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From India, Mumbai
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