Hi Friends,
Greetings!
I’m working in an IT company as HR executive. I have done MBA. Prior to this company I was working with Kotak Mahindra Bank as Management Trainee but into hard core sales. I worked over there just for 3 months & then left the job coz my major was HR and I always wanted to get into HR field . I joined Kotak coz its better to have something then nothing & moreover you learn something out of everything. I was looking for the opening for HR which is very hard to find for a fresher. My fiancée was working in an IT co. & he told me that there is requirement in his co. for HR Executive. I applied & got through & joined the organization. But now sometimes I feel that it was a wrong decision joining this organization. Many times when my fiancée comes to me with his problems so I always treat him as an employee & try to handle his grievances. But people get the impression that I am getting personal especially when it is in connection with some other employee in the organization. If I ignore his problem it would be an injustice with an employee & if I try to solve his problem people try to make it personal. I do not understand at times how I should behave. Many times I have noticed my fiancée’s boss doing discrimination with him & when he discusses the matter with the boss his boss try to take the revenge by some other way like over interrupting in his work. Taking report of work done for every hour. His boss gets personal. Finally when my fiancée comes to me with this problem I do not understand wot to do. Jst few days back He told that he has joined a coaching institute for the preparation of CAT so his boss yelled at him why did’nt he take permission before joining the coaching center. He replied he goes for classes only on Sundays & its entirely a personal matter so why should he take the permission from him & moreover when it is not effecting his job. Now he says it is mentioned in the policy that u can not join any coaching without prior permission from ur boss. My fiancée came to me to get it confirmed so I said it is nowhere written in the policy. Now their relations have become worst. He is a technical guy. Company is not providing him any training & now he wants to do courses by his own from other coaching centers & boss has objection with that. I’am completely a fresher. I have only four month’s experience. Before kotak I was working with a consultancy as Trainee Recruiter. I worked with this consultancy for four month coz I was in fourth Sem( Regular Student) & I had to go back for external exams for one month. So I resigned from the Org. Now I generally do not question the profile coz I have little fear of losing the job being less experienced. I feel better be quite & learn patiently, learn to survive in worst environment that would give me great learning. But still please suggest me the way out.
From India, Delhi
23Greetings!
I’m working in an IT company as HR executive. I have done MBA. Prior to this company I was working with Kotak Mahindra Bank as Management Trainee but into hard core sales. I worked over there just for 3 months & then left the job coz my major was HR and I always wanted to get into HR field . I joined Kotak coz its better to have something then nothing & moreover you learn something out of everything. I was looking for the opening for HR which is very hard to find for a fresher. My fiancée was working in an IT co. & he told me that there is requirement in his co. for HR Executive. I applied & got through & joined the organization. But now sometimes I feel that it was a wrong decision joining this organization. Many times when my fiancée comes to me with his problems so I always treat him as an employee & try to handle his grievances. But people get the impression that I am getting personal especially when it is in connection with some other employee in the organization. If I ignore his problem it would be an injustice with an employee & if I try to solve his problem people try to make it personal. I do not understand at times how I should behave. Many times I have noticed my fiancée’s boss doing discrimination with him & when he discusses the matter with the boss his boss try to take the revenge by some other way like over interrupting in his work. Taking report of work done for every hour. His boss gets personal. Finally when my fiancée comes to me with this problem I do not understand wot to do. Jst few days back He told that he has joined a coaching institute for the preparation of CAT so his boss yelled at him why did’nt he take permission before joining the coaching center. He replied he goes for classes only on Sundays & its entirely a personal matter so why should he take the permission from him & moreover when it is not effecting his job. Now he says it is mentioned in the policy that u can not join any coaching without prior permission from ur boss. My fiancée came to me to get it confirmed so I said it is nowhere written in the policy. Now their relations have become worst. He is a technical guy. Company is not providing him any training & now he wants to do courses by his own from other coaching centers & boss has objection with that. I’am completely a fresher. I have only four month’s experience. Before kotak I was working with a consultancy as Trainee Recruiter. I worked with this consultancy for four month coz I was in fourth Sem( Regular Student) & I had to go back for external exams for one month. So I resigned from the Org. Now I generally do not question the profile coz I have little fear of losing the job being less experienced. I feel better be quite & learn patiently, learn to survive in worst environment that would give me great learning. But still please suggest me the way out.
From India, Delhi
Dear Durga,
Really a disgusting situation, when you don't have a solution and still want to servive in the same organization then; one among you should come-out of the organization prior to the conditions go more worst than current. In this case what I suggest is to convince your hubby/finacee to look for another job. As you cannot find a job due to lack of sufficient experience then let your hubby/fiancee find one for him since he already has a experience and he is at technical end and the most important thing in this case is your hubby/fiancee's manager is creating a problem not yours, you can still work there and can gain experience in HR.
HR is a humane department, it is a strategic partner in the organization so do not feel youself helpless. Keep trying! do not loose hopes! there are still lot of things to be learnt, this experience is just the beginning so prepare your self
Wish you all the best.
Khaiser Ali Shah
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
Really a disgusting situation, when you don't have a solution and still want to servive in the same organization then; one among you should come-out of the organization prior to the conditions go more worst than current. In this case what I suggest is to convince your hubby/finacee to look for another job. As you cannot find a job due to lack of sufficient experience then let your hubby/fiancee find one for him since he already has a experience and he is at technical end and the most important thing in this case is your hubby/fiancee's manager is creating a problem not yours, you can still work there and can gain experience in HR.
HR is a humane department, it is a strategic partner in the organization so do not feel youself helpless. Keep trying! do not loose hopes! there are still lot of things to be learnt, this experience is just the beginning so prepare your self
Wish you all the best.
Khaiser Ali Shah
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
Being HR of the organization asking him to find a suitable job is also difficult.
And for my hubby it is quite difficult coz when he joined the org. he was technically very sound but co. put him into presales department as a consultant saying that he speaks well. but in this co. presales is nothing. they are never sent for any implementation. they read about the technology & then give the consulting to the clients which is actually a very wrong way to do. a consultant should be more sound than an implementation guy. so at least co. should provide them training and send on project with implementation guy to understand the things clearly. having theoretical knowledge is not enough without practicals. he as only one years exp. as a consultant which is quite less. Please suggest wot should he do in such miserable condition.
From India, Delhi
And for my hubby it is quite difficult coz when he joined the org. he was technically very sound but co. put him into presales department as a consultant saying that he speaks well. but in this co. presales is nothing. they are never sent for any implementation. they read about the technology & then give the consulting to the clients which is actually a very wrong way to do. a consultant should be more sound than an implementation guy. so at least co. should provide them training and send on project with implementation guy to understand the things clearly. having theoretical knowledge is not enough without practicals. he as only one years exp. as a consultant which is quite less. Please suggest wot should he do in such miserable condition.
From India, Delhi
Hi Durga,
These are the situations where u must be pro-active. The Bosses will be discriminating the sub-ordinates, its common in every company.
At present u r into HR, though u may be a less experience but u r HR. keep it in mind that u r working for the company but not for single employee (ur fiancy). This is a great oppurtunity for u to find a solution.
keeping the base(problem) of ur Fiancy and try to solve the problem of the other employees. That's the spirit of HR.
Escaping from the problem is not the solution.
Regards,
Santhosh Kumar.P
From India, Hyderabad
These are the situations where u must be pro-active. The Bosses will be discriminating the sub-ordinates, its common in every company.
At present u r into HR, though u may be a less experience but u r HR. keep it in mind that u r working for the company but not for single employee (ur fiancy). This is a great oppurtunity for u to find a solution.
keeping the base(problem) of ur Fiancy and try to solve the problem of the other employees. That's the spirit of HR.
Escaping from the problem is not the solution.
Regards,
Santhosh Kumar.P
From India, Hyderabad
Hi Santosh,
I have seen employees here who feel that its better be quite & after one year
jst move to other companies. They do not question even if they scolded for baseless reason. They say boss is always boss even if he is wrong. We are not here to serve the org. for all life so why fight. work patiently & if boss yells at u be quite & dont question him, complete one year & move out. They follow this philosophy. There are some employees who come to me with their problems but request me not to tell the bosses. But it is related with the boss so how would be the problem solved without their involvement. I told the employees if they would not stand for their own problem so even God can not help them out. Even if i raise the is in front of COO of co. he would definitely ask me names of the employees having the issues or they would think its me who is making stories. I promised the employees if they are ready to fight for themselves so I would give my 100 % to get the problem solved but they said the system can not be improved & its true. I do not know wot to do
From India, Delhi
I have seen employees here who feel that its better be quite & after one year
jst move to other companies. They do not question even if they scolded for baseless reason. They say boss is always boss even if he is wrong. We are not here to serve the org. for all life so why fight. work patiently & if boss yells at u be quite & dont question him, complete one year & move out. They follow this philosophy. There are some employees who come to me with their problems but request me not to tell the bosses. But it is related with the boss so how would be the problem solved without their involvement. I told the employees if they would not stand for their own problem so even God can not help them out. Even if i raise the is in front of COO of co. he would definitely ask me names of the employees having the issues or they would think its me who is making stories. I promised the employees if they are ready to fight for themselves so I would give my 100 % to get the problem solved but they said the system can not be improved & its true. I do not know wot to do
From India, Delhi
Dear Sexy,
Nice comment but, in this case they are psychologically harassed by a superior and ultimately according to their organization culture "Boss is Boss" which is a natural characterstic of a manager, he will be credited professionally for doing so.
The real meaning of the BOSS is Bastard Off Sucking S h i t.
Regards,
Khaiser Ali Shah
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
Nice comment but, in this case they are psychologically harassed by a superior and ultimately according to their organization culture "Boss is Boss" which is a natural characterstic of a manager, he will be credited professionally for doing so.
The real meaning of the BOSS is Bastard Off Sucking S h i t.
Regards,
Khaiser Ali Shah
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
Thanx Khaiser
When u a r at pain & find someone who can really understand the problem u feel little lighter. Actually one who is sitting at the top he always says that its not a lala co. but always behaves like a dictator. He says if problem exists so plz communicate & if we do so he do everything to justify his own points. I gives us a feeling that as if he has decided not to listen anybody so we stop giving more explanation. I still remember when I attended my first meeting i was the only one participating & putting views & no one else was participating & after attending some more meetings I understood that they know that its useless to speak in the meeting when u know that decision has already been taken & your view can not bring even a little change. I feel that when such experienced & mature people are following this philosophy of" Be quite & follow what is said" so I'am too young too change the culture of this Org. Once i had clashes with the COO of the co. coz of his such nature. I got so furious that I said " I really dont know where I have been wrong". My friends said u should not have spoken like this & that to wid COO. They said who do not reply him are mature & sensible. Next day I called up My COO & apologized for my behaviour. My friends say that he took lot of pain & made tremendous effort to get to that position. an inexperienced person has no right to question his decision. If u do that the Org would not stand by u coz they recognize his capabilities. But I feel that such would be the environment of Org .I would not be able to prove my capability.
From India, Delhi
When u a r at pain & find someone who can really understand the problem u feel little lighter. Actually one who is sitting at the top he always says that its not a lala co. but always behaves like a dictator. He says if problem exists so plz communicate & if we do so he do everything to justify his own points. I gives us a feeling that as if he has decided not to listen anybody so we stop giving more explanation. I still remember when I attended my first meeting i was the only one participating & putting views & no one else was participating & after attending some more meetings I understood that they know that its useless to speak in the meeting when u know that decision has already been taken & your view can not bring even a little change. I feel that when such experienced & mature people are following this philosophy of" Be quite & follow what is said" so I'am too young too change the culture of this Org. Once i had clashes with the COO of the co. coz of his such nature. I got so furious that I said " I really dont know where I have been wrong". My friends said u should not have spoken like this & that to wid COO. They said who do not reply him are mature & sensible. Next day I called up My COO & apologized for my behaviour. My friends say that he took lot of pain & made tremendous effort to get to that position. an inexperienced person has no right to question his decision. If u do that the Org would not stand by u coz they recognize his capabilities. But I feel that such would be the environment of Org .I would not be able to prove my capability.
From India, Delhi
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