The PF establishment search page is not working since December. Has this link/page been shifted to some other url or EPFO has completely disabled it.
Earlier employees were able to know whether his company is paying on time or not using this page.
Principal employer also used to check whether the contractor is paying epf to it's workers or not.
But now this link is not working. Can somebody tell if there is any substitute to it.
Thank you
From India, Kolkata
14Earlier employees were able to know whether his company is paying on time or not using this page.
Principal employer also used to check whether the contractor is paying epf to it's workers or not.
But now this link is not working. Can somebody tell if there is any substitute to it.
Thank you
From India, Kolkata
employee get a massage on his registered mobile, that his pf for xxx month is credited . and he can check his passbook also ..............
what exactly you want to know, please specify, as new system ECR has clear mandate in challan to furnish off roll (contract labour) data also, so if the contractor fails to do, then action would go against him.
what exactly you want to know, please specify, as new system ECR has clear mandate in challan to furnish off roll (contract labour) data also, so if the contractor fails to do, then action would go against him.
People hardly gets an sms from EPFO regarding amount gets credited. In the last 5 years I personally can not remember getting sms from EPFO for more than 5 times despite I have a fully KYC compliant UAN no.
And as far as passbook is concerned I heard that these member portals do not get updated regularly. At least that was that once one of our HR managers told to me when I joined and inquired after 4 months that why my new account no was not showing in my employee uan portal. That had happened 2 years back. And she replied that we had done it from our side but it takes time to get updated and show off itself in your member portal.
Hence I took this route (establishment search) to check whether they were depositing or not and I found they were indeed depositing every month, only my UAN was not showing that member account no. All of a suddent after a few months it showed off itself though.
So my point is if I join a company now and if they link it with my existing UAN it won't get updated in my member portal immediately I presume. At least I can not see it or check it for a few months I believe. That was my own experience.
I don't know after these changes how it's going to take place now though.
From India, Kolkata
And as far as passbook is concerned I heard that these member portals do not get updated regularly. At least that was that once one of our HR managers told to me when I joined and inquired after 4 months that why my new account no was not showing in my employee uan portal. That had happened 2 years back. And she replied that we had done it from our side but it takes time to get updated and show off itself in your member portal.
Hence I took this route (establishment search) to check whether they were depositing or not and I found they were indeed depositing every month, only my UAN was not showing that member account no. All of a suddent after a few months it showed off itself though.
So my point is if I join a company now and if they link it with my existing UAN it won't get updated in my member portal immediately I presume. At least I can not see it or check it for a few months I believe. That was my own experience.
I don't know after these changes how it's going to take place now though.
From India, Kolkata
Dear Mr. Sharma,
I'm not talking about consolidating old accounts into one.
Earlier if an employee joins an organization with existing UAN the employer links it, but the employee can see it only after a few months in his member portal.
Is this the same now? If I join a new organization I'll give me existing UAN to link. The employer will link it immediately. After how many days I'll be able to see it in my member portal. Does it still take weeks if not months or it shows in my member portal immediately.
From India, Kolkata
I'm not talking about consolidating old accounts into one.
Earlier if an employee joins an organization with existing UAN the employer links it, but the employee can see it only after a few months in his member portal.
Is this the same now? If I join a new organization I'll give me existing UAN to link. The employer will link it immediately. After how many days I'll be able to see it in my member portal. Does it still take weeks if not months or it shows in my member portal immediately.
From India, Kolkata
linking neither confirms employment nor confirms that data is verified,
let the employer either verify the same with DSC or make atleast one payment to the the linked UAN,
most of the linked UAN have missing aadhar data verification, or pan verification which should be verified with the departmental portals, and its submitted by SRO/RO batch-wise to the concerned departments,
if you have doubts then open your own uan member portal and look at aadhar / pan status where it is displaying "verified" and on next a button appear "demographic verification" click that to verify and you can understand the system of EPFO verification.
However on confirmed first payment from employer, the new employer would get visible on the member portal.
let the employer either verify the same with DSC or make atleast one payment to the the linked UAN,
most of the linked UAN have missing aadhar data verification, or pan verification which should be verified with the departmental portals, and its submitted by SRO/RO batch-wise to the concerned departments,
if you have doubts then open your own uan member portal and look at aadhar / pan status where it is displaying "verified" and on next a button appear "demographic verification" click that to verify and you can understand the system of EPFO verification.
However on confirmed first payment from employer, the new employer would get visible on the member portal.
Ok got it. Thank you.
But then if linking only doesn't mean employment then why when an employer links it's establishment code with a UAN the previous employment of that employee gets untagged from the UAN automatically, till the time either employer verifies it with DSC or upload one ecr the previous employment should remain tagged.
It seems you have loads of information in this regard. And you are a master in this field.
Thanks for your comments which help me understand epfo in a better way.
From India, Kolkata
But then if linking only doesn't mean employment then why when an employer links it's establishment code with a UAN the previous employment of that employee gets untagged from the UAN automatically, till the time either employer verifies it with DSC or upload one ecr the previous employment should remain tagged.
It seems you have loads of information in this regard. And you are a master in this field.
Thanks for your comments which help me understand epfo in a better way.
From India, Kolkata
if the employer does not make payment in the next ECR of the linked NEW LINKED UAN, then the employer will get SCN , and the linked UAN would get free for getting linked for next employer.
under CLRA ( contract labour) a single employee works for more than one employer often, new system allow the allocation of working days of the employee also, so that no employee can enjoy dual employment on any single time slot,
under CLRA ( contract labour) a single employee works for more than one employer often, new system allow the allocation of working days of the employee also, so that no employee can enjoy dual employment on any single time slot,
Ok. At any point in time two establishment codes can not remain active in a single uan, so dual employment is absolutely not possible.
But I guess if employer uploads one ecr against a uan who has joined recenty the employee can see this employment in his member portal service history immediately may be within a week post uploading ecr. It shouldn't take more time than this.
From India, Kolkata
But I guess if employer uploads one ecr against a uan who has joined recenty the employee can see this employment in his member portal service history immediately may be within a week post uploading ecr. It shouldn't take more time than this.
From India, Kolkata
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