Dear All
Just to give a brief background about myself.
I am a mechanical engineer and 36 years of age.
I have a total working experience of 13 years approximately. Out of these 13 years; 7 years of experience is in manufacturing field in India, wherein i have worked in multinational companies like Hindustan lever ltd, Wrigleys India Pvt ltd and Gujarat Guardian Limited. I have worked in these companies as a production officer/executive. My job mainly involved meeting the production targets set by the management by making use of my technical, production planning/scheduling and man-management skills. These are FMCG companies and I was involved in the production of soaps,chewing gums/candies and glass over a period of 7 years.
I moved to Australia in 2007 as a permanent resident and have been working in one of the major electricity companies here - Endeavour Energy. I have been working here as a meter data analyst/ billing analyst from 2007 till date. During this time period of 6 years approx. here in Australia, i have gained a lot of invaluable international exposure and experienced and learnt the different working styles as compared to India. Due to certain circumstances however, I could not continue working in the production field here as I was doing in India.
Again, due to some personal circumstances and family issues, I have to return back to India permanently in next few months. And I want to take up a career in technical recruitment when I move back to India. My strengths are - my production/technical experience gained in India, my overseas working experience here in Australia, my good verbal and written communication skills and my sincere, honest and hardworking attitude. I want to make use of my skills, experience and attributes to match the right candidates with the companies in the manufacturing field. I do not have any HR recruiting experience however. Ultimately, I want to be my own boss and work independently and I believe I can do it. I am looking for the right guidance and direction so that I can start putting my efforts into the same. Also, if I need to do any courses etc to enter this field.
I would greatly welcome any views/suggestions on the same. So that I can pursue my ambition with great confidence.
Many many thanks in advance.
warm regards
karan
From Australia, Bankstown
1Just to give a brief background about myself.
I am a mechanical engineer and 36 years of age.
I have a total working experience of 13 years approximately. Out of these 13 years; 7 years of experience is in manufacturing field in India, wherein i have worked in multinational companies like Hindustan lever ltd, Wrigleys India Pvt ltd and Gujarat Guardian Limited. I have worked in these companies as a production officer/executive. My job mainly involved meeting the production targets set by the management by making use of my technical, production planning/scheduling and man-management skills. These are FMCG companies and I was involved in the production of soaps,chewing gums/candies and glass over a period of 7 years.
I moved to Australia in 2007 as a permanent resident and have been working in one of the major electricity companies here - Endeavour Energy. I have been working here as a meter data analyst/ billing analyst from 2007 till date. During this time period of 6 years approx. here in Australia, i have gained a lot of invaluable international exposure and experienced and learnt the different working styles as compared to India. Due to certain circumstances however, I could not continue working in the production field here as I was doing in India.
Again, due to some personal circumstances and family issues, I have to return back to India permanently in next few months. And I want to take up a career in technical recruitment when I move back to India. My strengths are - my production/technical experience gained in India, my overseas working experience here in Australia, my good verbal and written communication skills and my sincere, honest and hardworking attitude. I want to make use of my skills, experience and attributes to match the right candidates with the companies in the manufacturing field. I do not have any HR recruiting experience however. Ultimately, I want to be my own boss and work independently and I believe I can do it. I am looking for the right guidance and direction so that I can start putting my efforts into the same. Also, if I need to do any courses etc to enter this field.
I would greatly welcome any views/suggestions on the same. So that I can pursue my ambition with great confidence.
Many many thanks in advance.
warm regards
karan
From Australia, Bankstown
Hello Karan,
The background about yourself that you mentioned is, indeed, very elaborate to understand/get the larger picture.
Going by your traits/strengths ['production/technical experience gained in India, my overseas working experience here in Australia, my good verbal and written communication skills and my sincere, honest and hardworking attitude'], there's one aspect that doesn't really jell--and that's WHY TECHNICAL RECRUITER? Typically, your traits would suffice/suit for many career paths actually [including as a technical recruiter]--even if you wish to go for a mid-career change of track.
While your lack of prior HR Recruitment exp MAY be a bottleneck, it surely is NOT a bar for entry into this area.
Since you aren't a fresher, I am sure you know that one needs to look @ BOTH the 'capabilities/abilities' AND the 'interest' angles for any career choice. While you have covered the abilities angle, suggest elaborate on the 'interest' angle too in a bit more detail--to repeat, WHY TECHNICAL RECRUITER & why not any other choice that your traits may be suitable for? In short, what are the reasons for your interest in this line? Hope you get the point.
All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
The background about yourself that you mentioned is, indeed, very elaborate to understand/get the larger picture.
Going by your traits/strengths ['production/technical experience gained in India, my overseas working experience here in Australia, my good verbal and written communication skills and my sincere, honest and hardworking attitude'], there's one aspect that doesn't really jell--and that's WHY TECHNICAL RECRUITER? Typically, your traits would suffice/suit for many career paths actually [including as a technical recruiter]--even if you wish to go for a mid-career change of track.
While your lack of prior HR Recruitment exp MAY be a bottleneck, it surely is NOT a bar for entry into this area.
Since you aren't a fresher, I am sure you know that one needs to look @ BOTH the 'capabilities/abilities' AND the 'interest' angles for any career choice. While you have covered the abilities angle, suggest elaborate on the 'interest' angle too in a bit more detail--to repeat, WHY TECHNICAL RECRUITER & why not any other choice that your traits may be suitable for? In short, what are the reasons for your interest in this line? Hope you get the point.
All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Taj
Many thanks for your reply.
I would try to explain why I would like to become a technical recruiter in India.
I want to do something which gives me power to take my own decisions, learn from
my mistakes and improve. Whilst working in India, I experienced a lot of office politics which
was very unsettling for me mentally and frustrated me a lot. Thats the primary reason, I left India and
opted for Australia and Australia gave me a lot of freedom to work with peace of mind. The working atmosphere here was not stiffling as in India. In India, inspite of breaking so many production records multiple times and suggesting/implementing process improvement activities, i never felt i was duly credited for the same - instead there were people ready to pull me down at the first available opportunity. I hate politics but I realised that to survive in work atmosphere in India, I have to be very smart and anticipate people's moves against me beforehand and then defend myself. But, as my mindset is truthful and honest and politics is nowhere in my personality make-up, i found myself to be a misfit in this work culture.
Anyhow, i do not want to indulge in that unpleasant past. As I am forced to move back to India now (due to family circumstances - old aged parents), the only job which comes to my mind where I can do justice to my qualifications is being a recruiter. I want to be a technical recruiter and help the deserving and hardworking candidates achieve their goals in life. I am confident that I can do utmost justice to this job by working sincerely and honestly. I know its not a cakewalk by any means. But I am ready to work hard and learn and improve. BUT, i do not want to be working again in India in the same office/factory environment where politics, links with the bosses and cunningness play a major part in one's success rather than truthfullness and sheer hardworking attitude. I want to be an independent recruiter and I believe I can do it.
Shall very much appreciate your views on this.
warm regards
karan
From Australia, Bankstown
Many thanks for your reply.
I would try to explain why I would like to become a technical recruiter in India.
I want to do something which gives me power to take my own decisions, learn from
my mistakes and improve. Whilst working in India, I experienced a lot of office politics which
was very unsettling for me mentally and frustrated me a lot. Thats the primary reason, I left India and
opted for Australia and Australia gave me a lot of freedom to work with peace of mind. The working atmosphere here was not stiffling as in India. In India, inspite of breaking so many production records multiple times and suggesting/implementing process improvement activities, i never felt i was duly credited for the same - instead there were people ready to pull me down at the first available opportunity. I hate politics but I realised that to survive in work atmosphere in India, I have to be very smart and anticipate people's moves against me beforehand and then defend myself. But, as my mindset is truthful and honest and politics is nowhere in my personality make-up, i found myself to be a misfit in this work culture.
Anyhow, i do not want to indulge in that unpleasant past. As I am forced to move back to India now (due to family circumstances - old aged parents), the only job which comes to my mind where I can do justice to my qualifications is being a recruiter. I want to be a technical recruiter and help the deserving and hardworking candidates achieve their goals in life. I am confident that I can do utmost justice to this job by working sincerely and honestly. I know its not a cakewalk by any means. But I am ready to work hard and learn and improve. BUT, i do not want to be working again in India in the same office/factory environment where politics, links with the bosses and cunningness play a major part in one's success rather than truthfullness and sheer hardworking attitude. I want to be an independent recruiter and I believe I can do it.
Shall very much appreciate your views on this.
warm regards
karan
From Australia, Bankstown
hi Karan
I appreciate your careful analysis and independent decision to chose a career. Yes recruitment is not a rocket science, anybody with a passion and dedicate can learn and become a specialist in due course. To start with, you may join in a established /reputed consulting as a Domain Specialist, where you can utilize your exp in manufacturing/production to evaluate/interview candidates and slowly begin to source CVs from the portal. In the next couple of months, you are a technical recruiter.
While on the job, keep learning how the business is acquired, serviced, how to face the clients etc. One day with decent investment, you can start a consulting business.
Thanks
Narayan
From India, Bangalore
I appreciate your careful analysis and independent decision to chose a career. Yes recruitment is not a rocket science, anybody with a passion and dedicate can learn and become a specialist in due course. To start with, you may join in a established /reputed consulting as a Domain Specialist, where you can utilize your exp in manufacturing/production to evaluate/interview candidates and slowly begin to source CVs from the portal. In the next couple of months, you are a technical recruiter.
While on the job, keep learning how the business is acquired, serviced, how to face the clients etc. One day with decent investment, you can start a consulting business.
Thanks
Narayan
From India, Bangalore
Mr. Karan,
To Establish yourself as Recruiter, you have confidence and passion. Which means 50% of job is over. To accomplish the remaining 50%, you need to work hard by Collecting Clientele data, go around in Australia, meet companies, understand their requirements and terms, understand other issues involved, start immediately sending people to Australia and to other countries, once you are back in India . Collect the date of International recruiters. During your stay in India, go through the local News papers, understand the requirements of market, work strategies to meet the time frame. After some exposure in the chosen field, you will understand the trade, then proceed further without stopping anywhere which is very important. The other inputs are given by other professional in the relevant field. All the best to you.
Remember God will help those who help themselves.
Ph : 9916138191
From India, Bangalore
To Establish yourself as Recruiter, you have confidence and passion. Which means 50% of job is over. To accomplish the remaining 50%, you need to work hard by Collecting Clientele data, go around in Australia, meet companies, understand their requirements and terms, understand other issues involved, start immediately sending people to Australia and to other countries, once you are back in India . Collect the date of International recruiters. During your stay in India, go through the local News papers, understand the requirements of market, work strategies to meet the time frame. After some exposure in the chosen field, you will understand the trade, then proceed further without stopping anywhere which is very important. The other inputs are given by other professional in the relevant field. All the best to you.
Remember God will help those who help themselves.
Ph : 9916138191
From India, Bangalore
Hi Karan,
I don't want to divert you from your idea of becoming a recruiter, but i feel you can utilize your massive experience and potential in to better career than a recruiter, why don't you try to become a Domain Specialist / Business Analyst / Functional Consultant in ERP, since you have core experience in Manufacturing there are plenty of opportunities for the functional consultant for large corporations for big size ERP implementations. you might have used some ERP during your tenure in Manufacturing. you might have come across MRP,PPC,SCM,Logistics,Costing,ShopFloor,Project,CR M, You can take a course for any ERP SAP/Oracle/Microsoft Dynamics AX, you will be able to get it quickly. according to my experience Microsoft Dynamics AX is easy one to learn also easy to get a job. Many of my friends who started as Recruiter is working as a ERP - HR Functional consultants (SAP/Oracle/AX).
All the best.
Regards
Ahamed Minhaj.A
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
I don't want to divert you from your idea of becoming a recruiter, but i feel you can utilize your massive experience and potential in to better career than a recruiter, why don't you try to become a Domain Specialist / Business Analyst / Functional Consultant in ERP, since you have core experience in Manufacturing there are plenty of opportunities for the functional consultant for large corporations for big size ERP implementations. you might have used some ERP during your tenure in Manufacturing. you might have come across MRP,PPC,SCM,Logistics,Costing,ShopFloor,Project,CR M, You can take a course for any ERP SAP/Oracle/Microsoft Dynamics AX, you will be able to get it quickly. according to my experience Microsoft Dynamics AX is easy one to learn also easy to get a job. Many of my friends who started as Recruiter is working as a ERP - HR Functional consultants (SAP/Oracle/AX).
All the best.
Regards
Ahamed Minhaj.A
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
Dear Vivian, Narayan and Ahmad
Many many thanks for endorsing my decision and providing a lot of encouragement to go ahead with my plans.
I would definitely like to keep in touch with all of you and share ideas in future.
Dear Narayan - Could you please guide me on how to join a reputed consulting as a Domain Specialist in the manufacturing field. Where can i see these jobs advertised. Shall very much appreciate your guidance on the same.
Dear Vivian - Thanks heaps for your great ideas as well. But, i was thinking that to work here in Australia, the employers do prefer that the candidate has permanent residency/citizenship. Its easier for people to get a job if they are the permanent resident of australia. Still, i would explore your idea with great enthusiasm and energy. I feel something positive can definitely come out of this.
Dear Ahmad - Thanks for providing me the option of other avenues as well. I will definitely look into the same with great interest.
Once again, my sincere thanks guys for taking the time out of your busy schedules and providing your valuable suggestions. I wish all of you all the very best in whatever careers you are pursuing.
God bless.
warm regards
karan
From Australia, Bankstown
Many many thanks for endorsing my decision and providing a lot of encouragement to go ahead with my plans.
I would definitely like to keep in touch with all of you and share ideas in future.
Dear Narayan - Could you please guide me on how to join a reputed consulting as a Domain Specialist in the manufacturing field. Where can i see these jobs advertised. Shall very much appreciate your guidance on the same.
Dear Vivian - Thanks heaps for your great ideas as well. But, i was thinking that to work here in Australia, the employers do prefer that the candidate has permanent residency/citizenship. Its easier for people to get a job if they are the permanent resident of australia. Still, i would explore your idea with great enthusiasm and energy. I feel something positive can definitely come out of this.
Dear Ahmad - Thanks for providing me the option of other avenues as well. I will definitely look into the same with great interest.
Once again, my sincere thanks guys for taking the time out of your busy schedules and providing your valuable suggestions. I wish all of you all the very best in whatever careers you are pursuing.
God bless.
warm regards
karan
From Australia, Bankstown
Hello Mr Karan
Your posting makes an interesting reading.
My view mirror images those expressed by Mr Taj Sateesh.
In the beginning you should concentrate on a larger area rather than confining to Technical Recruitment.
In my view you should start working on related areas as well and keep an eye on your passionate field.
Further you may like to consider the following aspects in your check list.
1.0 You have mentioned that your core branch is Mechanical Engineering.
Are you equally at home in other Engineering disciplines? When you are recruiting
you will have to interview other domain specialists.
2.0 Generally candidates can be grouped into two categories. Freshers and Experienced.
Recruiting freshers require a different skill set. They will have to be assessed in academic knowledge, project work, seminar paper presented, trainings undergone, extra-curricular activities etc. Accordingly your preparation should be there.
3.0 When you are a Technical Recruiter then there will be an eventual client, who would hire the candidates and his say will count finally.
Your success will be measured by the acceptability shown by the ultimate hirer.
Wish you good luck in your new endeavour.
V.Raghunathan .. Navi Mumbai
From India
Your posting makes an interesting reading.
My view mirror images those expressed by Mr Taj Sateesh.
In the beginning you should concentrate on a larger area rather than confining to Technical Recruitment.
In my view you should start working on related areas as well and keep an eye on your passionate field.
Further you may like to consider the following aspects in your check list.
1.0 You have mentioned that your core branch is Mechanical Engineering.
Are you equally at home in other Engineering disciplines? When you are recruiting
you will have to interview other domain specialists.
2.0 Generally candidates can be grouped into two categories. Freshers and Experienced.
Recruiting freshers require a different skill set. They will have to be assessed in academic knowledge, project work, seminar paper presented, trainings undergone, extra-curricular activities etc. Accordingly your preparation should be there.
3.0 When you are a Technical Recruiter then there will be an eventual client, who would hire the candidates and his say will count finally.
Your success will be measured by the acceptability shown by the ultimate hirer.
Wish you good luck in your new endeavour.
V.Raghunathan .. Navi Mumbai
From India
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