HR managers are a waste of money? Do you Agree the Above Statement? Justify with an Example?
From United Kingdom, London
1From United Kingdom, London
absolutely correct. if you ask any question like what is the use of HR, then the 1st immediate question raises is how u r getting u r monthly salary, how u r getting salary hike etc etc. When an accountant with a good payroll software is enough for salary calculations, why should we require a HR person. when the appraisals are done by the production dept it self, what is the use of a HR.
From India, Hyderabad
From India, Hyderabad
Thank you Ms. (Cite Contribution) for giving the link to HR as a Scapegoat Article which is really a worth reading.
I want to clarify onething Nagbajjuri, that we can take part in healthy discussion and develop our knowledge. But we cannot involve such arguments in office. Whoever telling that HR is waste of Money, we should not consider their statement even to listen. Does he think that he is genius than the Management which has engaged him in the organisation? The Management which is engaged the same person has engaged the HR Team too.
Then we can also tell that the so & so department is waste of Money??????
So, we should not indulge on such discussion made by mindless people's comments.
From India, Kumbakonam
I want to clarify onething Nagbajjuri, that we can take part in healthy discussion and develop our knowledge. But we cannot involve such arguments in office. Whoever telling that HR is waste of Money, we should not consider their statement even to listen. Does he think that he is genius than the Management which has engaged him in the organisation? The Management which is engaged the same person has engaged the HR Team too.
Then we can also tell that the so & so department is waste of Money??????
So, we should not indulge on such discussion made by mindless people's comments.
From India, Kumbakonam
Dear Nagbajjuri
Yes, HR is waste of money, when HR is controlled by management, when HR is seen as just a activity and assumed that it doesn't have any contribution or cannot contribute towards organizational mission, goal and vision.
HR is off course a waste of money, when they are not considered as a strategic partner in business.
HR is waste of money, when companies and top management wants it to act as per their wimps and fancies, and doesn't like HR interventions.
Remember one thing, Humans or the employees are most important part of any organization.Even though this is one asset that has high level of change at any given point of time. And retaining them is a very important and difficult task.A good company becomes a great company through its employees.
To help employees, HR needs to follow certain procedures and process, and if any hindrance is caused to this process or procedure then the entire process of having HR is defeated.
So I believe HR is waste of time, in those companies, where HR is not seen as department, but treated more like a orderly.
Believe me to understand that HR is waste of money, you need not be rocket scientist, all one has to do is pay attention in their MBA lectures while pursuing MBA , if one has not done MBA, then one can any time search on internet, for such information.
Regards
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
Yes, HR is waste of money, when HR is controlled by management, when HR is seen as just a activity and assumed that it doesn't have any contribution or cannot contribute towards organizational mission, goal and vision.
HR is off course a waste of money, when they are not considered as a strategic partner in business.
HR is waste of money, when companies and top management wants it to act as per their wimps and fancies, and doesn't like HR interventions.
Remember one thing, Humans or the employees are most important part of any organization.Even though this is one asset that has high level of change at any given point of time. And retaining them is a very important and difficult task.A good company becomes a great company through its employees.
To help employees, HR needs to follow certain procedures and process, and if any hindrance is caused to this process or procedure then the entire process of having HR is defeated.
So I believe HR is waste of time, in those companies, where HR is not seen as department, but treated more like a orderly.
Believe me to understand that HR is waste of money, you need not be rocket scientist, all one has to do is pay attention in their MBA lectures while pursuing MBA , if one has not done MBA, then one can any time search on internet, for such information.
Regards
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
Dear nagbajjuri, I think people who think HR is waste of money do not know what is importance of HR department and what HR does and why it does so.
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
You seem to be a frustrated person or have had a bad experience while working on the same role/position.
See the thing is that you need to know the real meaning of HR Manager and the concept of having a Manager for Human Resource. If a HR Manager are capable of doing what he/she have to perform for the organization, He/She is the real money or investment but if not; are good for nothing.
Now let me light on the role of HR Manager in the Organization first.
The role of the Human Resource Manager is evolving with the change in competitive market environment and the realization that Human Resource Management must play a more strategic role in the success of an organization. Organizations that do not put their emphasis on attracting and retaining talents may find themselves in dire consequences, as their competitors may be outplaying them in the strategic employment of their human resources.
With the increase in competition, locally or globally, organizations must become more adaptable, resilient, agile, and customer-focused to succeed. And within this change in environment, the HR professional has to evolve to become a strategic partner, an employee sponsor or advocate, and a change mentor within the organization. In order to succeed, HR must be a business driven function with a thorough understanding of the organization’s big picture and be able to influence key decisions and policies. In general, the focus of today’s HR Manager is on strategic personnel retention and talents development. HR professionals will be coaches, counselors, mentors, and succession planners to help motivate organization’s members and their loyalty. The HR manager will also promote and fight for values, ethics, beliefs, and spirituality within their organizations, especially in the management of workplace diversity.
This paper will highlight on how a HR manager can meet the challenges of workplace diversity, how to motivate employees through gain-sharing and executive information system through proper planning, organizing, leading and controlling their human resources.
According to me HR Managers of today may find it difficult because of the rapidly changing business environment and therefore they should update their knowledge and skills by looking at the organization's need and objectives. The HRM challenges are
1. Managing the Vision:
Vision of the organization provides the direction to business strategy and helps managers to evaluate management practices and make decisions. So vision management becomes the integral part of Man management in future.
2. Internal environment:
Creating an environment which is responsive to external changes, providing satisfaction to the employees and sustaining through culture and systems is a challenging task.
3. Changing Industrial Relations:
Both the workers and managers has to be managed by the same HRM Philosophy and this is a daunting task for the managers.
4. Building Organizational capability:
Even in the adverse circumstances the employees have to be made to live in psychological state of readiness to continually change.
5. Job Design & Organizational structure:
Instead of depending on foreign concepts we need to focus on understanding the job, technology and the people involved in carrying out the tasks.
6. Managing the large work force:
Management of large workforce poses the biggest problem as the workers are conscious of their rights.
7. Psycho-Social environment:
Nowadays employees participation required not only in performing job but also in democratizing and humanizing the institution.
8. Employee Satisfaction:
Managers should be aware of techniques to motivate their employees so that their higher level needs can be satisfied.
9. Modern technology:
There will be an unemployment due to modern technology and this could be corrected by assessing manpower needs and finding alternate employment.
10. Computerized Information System:
This is revolutionary in managerial decision making and is having impact on coordination in the organization.
11. Legal environment:
To meet the changes in legal environment, adjustments have to be made to the maximum utilization of human resources.
12. Managing Human Relations:
As the workforce comprises of both educated and uneducated, managing the relations will be of great challenge.
Conclusion:
In spite of all the problems if HR Managers are able to overcome all these problems with the support of management and employees, they are the real investment and Money for the Organization. In the current business world managing employees are becoming complex task and this can be handled effectively only by our great HR Leaders.
From India, Gurgaon
Mr. Suhas, Im agree with you but instead of saying this, one must light the importance of HR Managers so that other can get the real meaning and understand this.. Thanks
From India, Gurgaon
From India, Gurgaon
Octavious, Im feeling very bad to know that you blv HR Managers are waste of Money.
You said “HR is seen as just an activity and assumed that doesn't have any contribution or cannot contribute towards organizational mission, goal and vision.”
Dear if you take this Human Resource functions as just an activity, then im sorry you won’t be able to see the actual work of HR Managers are doing for their organization bcz of you haven’t seen the right peoples and the contribution of HR Managers your around, you can’t say that HR Mangers are just wasting their time and it is not true I believe.
I have seen many successful peoples who have set an excellent example in this regard. We all know that in today’s big, complex and competitive world, HR Managers have to go thru many challenges to over HRD problems but it dosent mean that they are waste of Money.
Im not agree with your statement here. One more thing I wanna say here that you need to know that without Human Resource and Department none of single department can function properly. You need to study my “7 STARS of HR” which you can find in my old posted threads by clicking on my name “Find all post by anilkr.arora
Hope you wont take this personally as im just trying to tell you the importance of HRD and HRM in todays world.
From India, Gurgaon
You said “HR is seen as just an activity and assumed that doesn't have any contribution or cannot contribute towards organizational mission, goal and vision.”
Dear if you take this Human Resource functions as just an activity, then im sorry you won’t be able to see the actual work of HR Managers are doing for their organization bcz of you haven’t seen the right peoples and the contribution of HR Managers your around, you can’t say that HR Mangers are just wasting their time and it is not true I believe.
I have seen many successful peoples who have set an excellent example in this regard. We all know that in today’s big, complex and competitive world, HR Managers have to go thru many challenges to over HRD problems but it dosent mean that they are waste of Money.
Im not agree with your statement here. One more thing I wanna say here that you need to know that without Human Resource and Department none of single department can function properly. You need to study my “7 STARS of HR” which you can find in my old posted threads by clicking on my name “Find all post by anilkr.arora
Hope you wont take this personally as im just trying to tell you the importance of HRD and HRM in todays world.
From India, Gurgaon
Dear Anil
I ask you to read the entire post I have written again void of emotions. You will understand what I have mentioned.
I wont take things personally, until and unless it needs to be, in above case it seems that you have answered in a hurry, without understanding the reply that I have given to the person.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I request you to do a research on sarcasm, how and when it is used, and then read my answer with a new perception and a receptive mind.
Hope you will understand. Also read the sentence in totality and not it parts.
Also thanks for letting me know how to search for your post.
Regards
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
I ask you to read the entire post I have written again void of emotions. You will understand what I have mentioned.
I wont take things personally, until and unless it needs to be, in above case it seems that you have answered in a hurry, without understanding the reply that I have given to the person.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I request you to do a research on sarcasm, how and when it is used, and then read my answer with a new perception and a receptive mind.
Hope you will understand. Also read the sentence in totality and not it parts.
Also thanks for letting me know how to search for your post.
Regards
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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